DucRider
Well-Known Member
Tesla does not make their own batteries, Panasonic makes them for them (US) with other suppliers for the Chinese market.
Musk even directly placed the blame on Panasonic for lower than expected M3 deliveries in Q1 of 2019 due to only 2/3rds of the production they expected from the Gigafactory lines.
The Rivian reveal was less than 2 years ago, we have had updates on lower price, increased range, more features, faster charging. Any statement about "no update for years" is an exaggeration at best.
Tesla bought battery research companies, no actual battery production.
There is some indication that Rivian may manufacture their own batteries, but nothing announced.
Tesla has yet to decide on a location and purchase land for the Cybertruck factory, let alone break ground, order assembly line equipment, etc. The chances of them entering production before Rivian are near zero.
The good news is they don't have to worry about a solution for their paint issues with the Cybertruck.
No problem with someone deciding on the Tesla over the Rivian, and Tesla does hold some distinct advantages. Just none of the ones listed. Their Supercharging infrastructure being primary.
Tweets/thoughts from Musk hold little weight with me as they are often detached from reality and what is actually eventually produced. Full self driving capability time frames and cross country documented trips come to mind (but there are many other examples).
Right now nobody has to choose because neither is available or can actually be configured/ordered.
Musk even directly placed the blame on Panasonic for lower than expected M3 deliveries in Q1 of 2019 due to only 2/3rds of the production they expected from the Gigafactory lines.
The Rivian reveal was less than 2 years ago, we have had updates on lower price, increased range, more features, faster charging. Any statement about "no update for years" is an exaggeration at best.
Tesla bought battery research companies, no actual battery production.
There is some indication that Rivian may manufacture their own batteries, but nothing announced.
Tesla has yet to decide on a location and purchase land for the Cybertruck factory, let alone break ground, order assembly line equipment, etc. The chances of them entering production before Rivian are near zero.
The good news is they don't have to worry about a solution for their paint issues with the Cybertruck.
No problem with someone deciding on the Tesla over the Rivian, and Tesla does hold some distinct advantages. Just none of the ones listed. Their Supercharging infrastructure being primary.
Tweets/thoughts from Musk hold little weight with me as they are often detached from reality and what is actually eventually produced. Full self driving capability time frames and cross country documented trips come to mind (but there are many other examples).
Right now nobody has to choose because neither is available or can actually be configured/ordered.
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