What Would Make You Dump Your R1 for an R2

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R2 looks nice - If they made it a bit bigger (like a 3 row) I might consider it.

(Sorry OP )

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[RivianRiverRat]

Keeping the R1T and wife is replacing the m3 with the R2
Tried to get her in a R1S but she has always wanted the R2
But I do have 2 reservations just in case

 

[elektrode]

R1T expired warranty and R2 Tri w/Lidar

 

[emoore]

Would take my R1 getting totaled. I do like the R2 but it doesn’t have the features I’d want in order to upgrade.

 

[TTedP]

If someone came out with a mid-sized EV truck that could tow the same as a R1T, but had regular spring suspension and a bigger battery that charged quicker, I'd seriously think about trading in my current truck. I'm a day to day truck guy, meaning I haul stuff and I tow stuff. I'd don't offroad or 'adventure', because there aren't a lot of opportunities for that where I live.

So, a truck with 200 miles of towing range and faster charging, with a non-bespoke suspension that does OK in snow would get my vote, and my dollars. I bought the R1T because it was the sole mid-sized EV truck available at the time. I don't need huge horsepower numbers or fancy gizmos - what I really want is the EV equivalent of a Ford Ranger or Chevy Colorado.

I love the R1T but per your specs, is a Silverado EV is too big? I had one as a loaner and it drove nice and smooth. Tons of inside room.

 

[TTedP]

R2 is looking pretty good but I am holding out for Gen 3/4 tech before considering another trade.

 

[narmstrong79]

Have to address one thing first. FSD is not a gimmick or a party trick, at least in its latest iteration. If Rivian gets where Tesla is, it is a genuinely useful feature on the day to day commuting and could make a huge difference. Didn't realize how much energy driving takes from me daily until I realized how much more recharged I arrived at home when the vehicle did most of the drive. I drive a lot, so if the R2 can deliver with UHF and point to point driving, coming from a Gen 1 R1S, that would certainly help me consider getting one.

I hear you on the "recharge" factor, but that’s exactly why I think it’s a gimmick for able-bodied people.

If the main reason to overhaul hardware, , is just to fix "commute fatigue," then we’ve lost the plot. FSD should be a life-altering tool for the blind, the elderly, or people with disabilities. For them, point-to-point driving is actual freedom. For the rest of us, it’s just a high-tech luxury for a lifestyle problem.

Using FSD to handle a highway merge just so you can tune out isn't providing mobility, it’s providing a distraction. We’re basically over-engineering "passenger pods" for people who are perfectly capable of being pilots. I’d much rather see this tech marketed as a way to open the world to people who literally cannot drive, instead of a party trick for those of us who just don't feel like it, Plus, it's just another opportunity to turn your driveway into a subscription service

 

[Great Gatsby]

I hear you on the "recharge" factor, but that’s exactly why I think it’s a gimmick for able-bodied people.

If the main reason to overhaul hardware, , is just to fix "commute fatigue," then we’ve lost the plot. FSD should be a life-altering tool for the blind, the elderly, or people with disabilities. For them, point-to-point driving is actual freedom. For the rest of us, it’s just a high-tech luxury for a lifestyle problem.

Using FSD to handle a highway merge just so you can tune out isn't providing mobility, it’s providing a distraction. We’re basically over-engineering "passenger pods" for people who are perfectly capable of being pilots. I’d much rather see this tech marketed as a way to open the world to people who literally cannot drive, instead of a party trick for those of us who just don't feel like it, Plus, it's just another opportunity to turn your driveway into a subscription service

I strongly disagree. I am with you on the assist to certain communities, but the value add to most people as well is hard to ignore. I actually like the current set up of still being able to drive but also being able to use FSD/UHF for more boring driving task like rush hour traffic and long highway cruises. Two things can be true: A car can be great to drive AND also a "passenger pod". The R2 has a great shot at being great at both. This is a huge selling point to some, specially if they are trying to get some of the more die hard Tesla people. And for people who commute a lot and far, "commute fatigue" is a real challenge and a car that gets them from home to work with minimal intervention is life changing. I don't consider it a party trick and more of a useful tool and feature that these vehicles can offer.

All of this in the nature of respectful discount, of course. This is all a matter of opinion and I respect yours.

 

[R1 Lime]

3rd row is a deal breaker. I need it for when the in-laws or family comes to town. Otherwise I’m stuck driving my wife’s ICE.

I also can’t go down in size. After driving my R1S since ‘23, I’ll never get a smaller vehicle. The height is commanding on the road. It never feels small.

I’m usually a sucker for new tech and typically trade in my cars around 3 years. This is the first time I’ve never felt the need to get a new vehicle. That might change when the R1S gets point to point self driving, but it will be difficult to stomach a $100k+ build to match my Gen 1.

 

[SANZC02]

I won’t be getting rid of the R1S but based on the reviews showing some charging speed and effeciency numbers, might end up taking the R2 on more of the road trips and leaving the R1S at home.

If it really is 30% more efficient that means cheaper to charge and fewer kWh each stop.

 

[Zoidz]

I won't get rid of the R1 for an R2. I use/need the additional space on a regular basis, not willing to compromise that. I'm 6'-3" so going smaller would be a tighter, less comfortable fit. I have a day one R2 reservation to hold a spot for replacing my wife's X3, but after almost 3 years of owning the R1S, we are not ready to live the "all in on EVs" life. She would like to go with an X3 hybrid, assuming that comes to the US in the next few years.

 

[schwartz83]

Happy R2 Day - Alright, let’s be honest:

Most of us aren’t content creators needing engagement, or want to rent our lifestyle with endless leasing. So… what would actually make you willingly switch from your R1 to an R2?

Do you think the initial wave will be new buyers or Rivian nerds like us , who must have the latest thing?

My R1S trade‑in value is is likely close to the expected price of an R2. Thanks to pre‑order pricing, I “only” have to eat $10–15K of depreciation, over 2 years of ownership which isn't horrible, Still...not chump change, instead of the $30–40K others have to eat on MSRP.

So now I’m wondering:
What would R2 need to make YOU say, “I’ll take the smaller one”?

• Beside the party trick and coolness of FSD, do you really need or want that?
• Charging is about the same, but I don't road trip much, and after 3 hours of driving i welcome the 15-40 min stop
• The scroll wheel are actually cool
• Switching from a Model Y or other EVs in this segment? Totally makes sense.

Let the rationalizations begin. Or are you like me and your R1 is staying with you until the wheels fall off?

I'll take the smaller one. Love our R1T, but the R2 is a better fit for us. My wife and daughter aren't comfortable driving the T in the city. The R2 is plenty for us.

 

[s4wrxttcs]

Nothing.

The R1T for me is really a use case one.

That being said I'd really love an All Electric smaller SUV version of it as a second car. If only such a thing existed for <$60K.

 

[SLVRon]

I hear you on the "recharge" factor, but that’s exactly why I think it’s a gimmick for able-bodied people.

If the main reason to overhaul hardware, , is just to fix "commute fatigue," then we’ve lost the plot. FSD should be a life-altering tool for the blind, the elderly, or people with disabilities. For them, point-to-point driving is actual freedom. For the rest of us, it’s just a high-tech luxury for a lifestyle problem.

Using FSD to handle a highway merge just so you can tune out isn't providing mobility, it’s providing a distraction. We’re basically over-engineering "passenger pods" for people who are perfectly capable of being pilots. I’d much rather see this tech marketed as a way to open the world to people who literally cannot drive, instead of a party trick for those of us who just don't feel like it, Plus, it's just another opportunity to turn your driveway into a subscription service

One way I heard this captured was "I want a car that can't crash". I agree with that, but that's not where the focus of autonomous driving is.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

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