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Assuming you count the current/previous employees, yes.Just wondering if anyone knows if any customer has received their R1T? Only two days till the end of the month and the "first customer vehicle" rolled off the assembly line on 9/14.
I agree and why would you not, it needs to be reported as sales income…..Assuming you count the current/previous employees, yes.
Rivian didn't say the deliveries in September was going to be to customers that have no relationship to Rivian. A sale is a sale, as long as the truck was paid for and Rivian can count it as income.No I don’t count those. Technically yes but practically no. Would they give unbiased opinions? Doubt it.
So if someone doesn’t have an unbiased opinion of a car they’ve bought, they don’t own it? Interesting ?No I don’t count those. Technically yes but practically no. Would they give unbiased opinions? Doubt it.
The above is quoted from RJ's August update. The way I see it......We are currently working with various governing agencies on the final approvals needed for us to make the first deliveries to preorder customers in September.
No I don’t count those. Technically yes but practically no. Would they give unbiased opinions? Doubt it.
Why are you conflating the sale of a vehicle with other non-material claims like insider bias and/or access to Rivian resources? They still sold the truck. The same warranty applies, the same return policy applies, the same truck capabilities (and fallacies) will be experienced. Besides, it's not that employee's job to provide you with an unbiased review of their purchase. Maybe they will feel inclined to share their truck with Doug DeMuro or something, but that's their call to make.Personally I wouldn't count Rivian employees since many of them are already driving Rivians all the time and they'll have a very different experience from non-Rivian employees (e.g. they're likely using dogfood/beta builds of software, any problems and they can literally ask the people responsible or report issues, can't speak about any tech publicly due to NDAs or fear of consequences, biased towards liking things they worked on or things made by friends/coworkers, etc.).
Why presume that these early and now former employees did not place a deposit/preorder?The above is quoted from RJ's August update. The way I see it......
When you first read the email, did you think September deliveries were only meant for employees, friends and family? If so, you may be right, but we still have a few days left in September.
Did you think it meant preorder customers, with paid deposits, that weren't employees? You'll probably be unhappy if there's no mention of deliveries to non-employee preorder holders, by end of day Thursday.
Or, were you not sure who the deliveries were meant for? Then the email should have been more specific.
If it turns out the only deliveries Rivian makes in September, are to employees, I doubt anyone will ever know if they were actual preorder customers with deposits, or not. In the long run, it really makes no difference. If someone is determined to buy a Rivian, they will justify their purchase, whether they think the email was misleading, or not, and take whatever future actions Rivian chooses to make.
I didn't presume anything, but I had no idea they were former employees. Can you provide where that information can be found, please? It still won't make any difference to what I originally wrote.Why presume that these early and now former employees did not place a deposit/preorder?
If you worked for a company or previously worked for a company which then put you at the front of the line to get the product, you think you'd have an unbiased opinion? And yes I understand they paid for it like everyone else. Just saying might not be as neutral as ordinary joe.So if someone doesn’t have an unbiased opinion of a car they’ve bought, they don’t own it? Interesting ?
No one paying their own money for something that is often an emotional purchase such as a car will have an unbiased opinion of it. It’s just not an objective process.If you worked for a company or previously worked for a company which then put you at the front of the line to get the product, you think you'd have an unbiased opinion? And yes I understand they paid for it like everyone else. Just saying might not be as neutral as ordinary joe.
In my experience, those that put down $1K right out of the gate and then another $75k+ to get the first LE are also not going to be unbiased.If you worked for a company or previously worked for a company which then put you at the front of the line to get the product, you think you'd have an unbiased opinion? And yes I understand they paid for it like everyone else. Just saying might not be as neutral as ordinary joe.