Coastal Cloud Interior Not Available with R2 Launch Edition

[DuoRivian]

You made declarative statements about what will and will not happen.

My point was, and remains, we don't know what will happen with Gen 3. And I'd wager Rivian doesn't know all of the changes either because production has not yet ramped on R2.

Changes happen regularly on production lines, and Rivian has adopted a similar approach to Tesla - don't wait on model years to make changes. In this case we know one thing - there will be a Gen 3.

What changes come with iR2 Gen 3 are unknown, and unknowable at this time. But there are likely to be more changes than what Rivian has already announced. That's my entire position.

/end rant

I agree with you. I wish we would keep Gen 3 to mean ADAS only (and this will go to R1 in time). There will not be a Gen 2 R2 for sometime since it isn’t out for another three months and the hardware, styling etc will not change for several years.

Would be good if they used ADAS 2.0, 3.0 to differentiate and keep the Gen terminology for generations of the vehicle which is much more than the ADAS capability.

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[Mos Eisley]

FWIW- Either Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, or one or the other is wrong or... Rivian is changing it's mind or...

From a Facebook post today:

 

[VSG]

Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense that every single other option listed on the website EXCEPT interior color can be selected for the LE. It doesn't "simplify" the manufacturing in any meaningful way if I can choose amongst 8 different paint colors and two different wheels, and an optional spare tire, but only have one of the two interior color choices.

And despite what everyone is saying, the Rivian website still lists both interior colors as options and makes no mention that the Launch Package is restricted to the Black interior.

 

[wnealisr226]

Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense that every single other option listed on the website EXCEPT interior color can be selected for the LE. It doesn't "simplify" the manufacturing in any meaningful way if I can choose amongst 8 different paint colors and two different wheels, and an optional spare tire, but only have one of the two interior color choices.

And despite what everyone is saying, the Rivian website still lists both interior colors as options and makes no mention that the Launch Package is restricted to the Black interior.

Jose confirmed it at SXSW

https://riviantrackr.com/news/r2s-coastal-cloud-signature-interior-wont-be-available-at-launch/

 

[VSG]

Yeah obviously I know that because I read this thread.

 

[Mos Eisley]

Jose confirmed it at SXSW

https://riviantrackr.com/news/r2s-coastal-cloud-signature-interior-wont-be-available-at-launch/

And that Facebook post contradicted that.

 

[DuoRivian]

Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense that every single other option listed on the website EXCEPT interior color can be selected for the LE. It doesn't "simplify" the manufacturing in any meaningful way if I can choose amongst 8 different paint colors and two different wheels, and an optional spare tire, but only have one of the two interior color choices.

And despite what everyone is saying, the Rivian website still lists both interior colors as options and makes no mention that the Launch Package is restricted to the Black interior.

It does simplify production by literally halving the number of permutations. Wheels are an easy binary choice towards the end of manufacturer. The spare wheel is also essentially a dealer finite that can be done post manufacture. The tow package is standard on LE to simplify build as does having just one interior which is made up of many parts (not just four like the wheels).

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Jose confirmed it at SXSW

https://riviantrackr.com/news/r2s-coastal-cloud-signature-interior-wont-be-available-at-launch/

Oh, he was drunk when he said that.







OK, maybe not, but I was definitely drunk when I read it.

 

[Gravy Donkey]

Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense that every single other option listed on the website EXCEPT interior color can be selected for the LE. It doesn't "simplify" the manufacturing in any meaningful way if I can choose amongst 8 different paint colors and two different wheels, and an optional spare tire, but only have one of the two interior color choices.

And despite what everyone is saying, the Rivian website still lists both interior colors as options and makes no mention that the Launch Package is restricted to the Black interior.

I thought the same thing - that this was just hype on this forum drummed up for drama. But for what it's worth, the guy at the Denver Block Party confidently confirmed that there will be no Coastal Cloud at time of launch.

 

[savethemanual]

I thought the same thing - that this was just hype on this forum drummed up for drama. But for what it's worth, the guy at the Denver Block Party confidently confirmed that there will be no Coastal Cloud at time of launch.

We will know for sure when reservation holders are prompted to start the ordering process, soon! Technically, every thing is speculation right now.....but some speculators have very good insights

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[CarseatHeadrest]

Not offering a 2nd interior color option at launch is LAME.

 

[KBabione]

Come on...There is a very significant difference between:

"No Coastal Cloud at the time of Launch"
and
"No Coastal Cloud for Launch Editions"

Obviously we'll find out in June (not so far away, even if they wait until the end of June) when the configurator opens up. I think what will happen is that we'll configure what we want (Glacier White, 20" wheels, and Coastal Cloud interior for us) and then we'll find out when we might be able to get what we configured. In a hurry? Clearly the black interior will be offered first, so configure your order accordingly.

 

[VSG]

It does simplify production by literally halving the number of permutations. Wheels are an easy binary choice towards the end of manufacturer

I'm not buying it. Wheel choice also halves the number of permutations. But in the case of both wheels and interior colors, having options actually *increases* manufacturing throughput if some of the parts are supply constrained. Remember the R1 when they had a shortage of one type of wheel, so everyone went and changed their configuration to another type of wheel to get theirs sooner, which then caused shortages in another of the wheels, etc. Offering 2 wheel choices (or two interiors) means you can still produce the *other* one and keep the line going if there is a glitch in the supply chain. It actually helps keep the line going in situations that Rivian is *likely* to encounter in early production.

 

[KBabione]

But in the case of both wheels and interior colors, having options actually *increases* manufacturing throughput if some of the parts are supply constrained.

Ahh...This reminds me of the early 90's when, as a mill controller in Jackson, MS, my plant manager handed me a copy of The Goal and told me to read it. Good times!

 

[AirplaneDr]

I'm not buying it. Wheel choice also halves the number of permutations. But in the case of both wheels and interior colors, having options actually *increases* manufacturing throughput if some of the parts are supply constrained. Remember the R1 when they had a shortage of one type of wheel, so everyone went and changed their configuration to another type of wheel to get theirs sooner, which then caused shortages in another of the wheels, etc. Offering 2 wheel choices (or two interiors) means you can still produce the *other* one and keep the line going if there is a glitch in the supply chain. It actually helps keep the line going in situations that Rivian is *likely* to encounter in early production.

Order sheet check box permutations are totally irreverent. The 2 wheel choices on LE are a trivial addition to manufacturing complexity. The vehicles could potentially ship with one wheel or even steel wheels and be swapped to the customer choice just before delivery. GM did exactly that with Escalades a few years back. For the customer it is "just" a white or black interior color check box on the order sheet but for Rivian there are dozens of individual interior components that need to be sourced specific to that choice: seats, dash, headliner, carpet, door cards, etc. As the assembly line and suppliers of those components ramp up to only have one color to focus on vastly simplifies manufacturing and logistics.

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