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I wonder if Alexa will open up Sirius xm with connect+?
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I would argue they aren’t taking away any features. Just monetizing the services we were getting free for quite some time. Data etc. are services that have an operating cost. So it makes sense that we start paying.Yes, it looks like they're nerfing our features if we don't pay. Tesla did the same thing several years ago. Cars used to come with free connectivity to do streaming music and video, satellite maps, and traffic visualization, but now you pay $10/mo or $100/year to do that. Unlike Rivian it seems, Tesla grandfathered in the earlier cars into having free premium connectivity for life.
It's strange that Connect+ is being announced like it's bringing these new features out that have actually always been available, but now you have to pay for them.
Services with ongoing costs are the few I can stomach a subscription for. This isn't like BMW charging you monthly for heated seats.I would argue they aren’t taking away any features. Just monetizing the services we were getting free for quite some time. Data etc. are services that have an operating cost. So it makes sense that we start paying.
It’s not 14.99 per month and 149.99 annually, it’s one or the other. So that is better. ?I don’t think ive seen it posted anywhere but it pops up in RivianTrackers video from last nights Rivian event. Appears to be $14.99 per month and $149.99 annually. Also bonus, this is the first video i’ve seen with the slate sky interior featured.
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Right on. I am on second R1T and my first one was a super early number. So I was well informed that those services will eventually be paid. But you are probably right that it wasn’t that well communicated after the first few thousand deliveries. Early on it was made super clear and it seemed like each month was a “hell yeah. One more freebie month.” ?Services with ongoing costs are the few I can stomach a subscription for. This isn't like BMW charging you monthly for heated seats.
But as I mentioned earlier, this wouldn't be such a talking point if they were more upfront about it at the time of purchase. On my 2015 Model S I had free connectivity for life. When I bought my 2019 I was told I'd have 30 days of free premium connectivity it and then I'd have to subscribe. After the trial I paid for it because it's worth it, and I'll still pay for Connect+ (though I also think it should only be $100/year), but the change from free to pay leaves a bad taste in owners' mouths as they did not disclose this very well. Heck, I don't think they're even disclosing it very well now.
This is a slightly less worse version of the companies that sold smart devices with no subscription and then dropped a subscription bomb on everyone after they're all hooked into the ecosystem. If it was always an unsustainable business model to offer a free service on the basis of recouping costs in another manner, then it was just a bad business model; that's not the customer's fault.
You may be right but average selling price for a Tesla is ~$50k vs. ~$90k for a Rivian currently. I can't imagine the extra $50 will discourage too many owners. Of course, there are those that will refuse to pay based on principle but they would probably be out at $99 too.$149/year is too high, $99 like Tesla is the sweet spot where people won't think twice about subscribing.
It's been in the General Terms and Conditions document since the vehicles have been shipping day 1. You did read that document before you made your purchase, right?It's not something that's been relayed during delivery, or at least not at mine which was after the 6/4 announcement.
One can make an argument for the price to be related to what features are included, instead of the original price of the vehicle itself. For this, I say it should cost less than the Tesla $99.You may be right but average selling price for a Tesla is ~$50k vs. ~$90k for a Rivian currently. I can't imagine the extra $50 will discourage too many owners. Of course, there are those that will refuse to pay based on principle but they would probably be out at $99 too.
Only thing I use (or even care about) on the C+ list today is streaming TuneIn, so I will just dump that and start using SXM on my phone, which is free for me. My phone has better streaming connectivity anyway.150 a year (=12.50 a month) does not seem that bad, I’ll probably add it to mine.
For those that missed the communication last month, here are some details;
What is Connect+?
All Rivian vehicles come with standard connectivity features such as:
On June 6, 2024, Rivian announced Connect+ which will provide additional connected vehicle features such as:
- Regular over-the-air software updates
- Live navigation
- Remote vehicle commands
- Phone as a key
- Alexa Basic (for vehicle commands)
- Tethering (connecting the vehicle to an external Wi-Fi network or phone hotspot)
Connect+ will be available in vehicles later this summer. At that point, we’ll introduce a two-month trial for all existing owners.
- In-vehicle hotspot
- Satellite Images
- Alexa Connected commands
- Data to access music streaming apps like Spotify, Tidal and TuneIn (Apple Music coming later this summer)
- Google Cast and YouTube (coming later this summer)
- Gear Guard Live Cam (coming later this year)
Connect+ will cost $14.99 per month ($19.99 CAD) or $149.99 per year ($199.99 CAD). You'll be notified towards the end of your trial and be able to sign up via the Rivian app, in-vehicle infotainment, and your Account Page.