Tire costs, about what Gas costs per mile.

[Greg Chick]

I replaced my 2 front 21" Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season tires this last March 16th., with the same. I have driven about 5,000 miles since then. About 30 miles in snow mode, many in Conserve, after seeing wear, switched to standard height. Now only drive in All Terrain standard height.
If I use the easy math of $1,000 for a pair of tires and figure I will be at the must replace point by the 6,000-mile use point, it will cost me .16.66 cents per mile in tire cost alone.
If my math is correct, that is like getting 30 MPG at about the California cost of about @5. per gallon. But this cost is for tires alone that are hard to find and twice the price of normal tires.
When I replaced the 2 front tires the tech did not see wear that said alignment issues existed. Those original tires got 17,000 mile range. I thought that was a bit short, but hey this is a heavy truck. Now I get almost a third of that in mileage before needing replacement! This is in 5 months. I do not do launch mode, I travel mostly highway, no off roading. I and am not a racer because my Honda C-RV All four SUV got well over 50,000 miles on its tires. And the brakes were about 50% wear at that point. I do not compare the 2 vehicles, I compare my driving style to that wear and mileage.

What I have described, is in my mind and history of owning trucks and cars, way out of line. If the tires were $150-$200, the cost would be cut in half, but the trouble getting tires is yet another very difficult task.

The rotation mileage recommendation is more than the tire life itself! I did not even look at my tires till I thought I should see if the tires needed rotation earlier than what I read in this site to be a rotation point. Some have said 9,000-mile increment is the recommended increment. Also, some have posted here that 5,000 miles is needed.

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[Budman]

I have the 21s. I Drive in conserve mode often. Rotated at 9000 and 18000 miles. Now at over 25000 miles and plan to replace at around 30,000 miles. It seems a great deal of tire life is determined by driving style, I am a pretty mello driver and am seeing pretty good tread life.

 

[sparkles]

If your tires are shot at 6k miles you absolutely have an alignment issue.

 

[Marchin_MTB]

Based on the way things are trending, it looks like our 21s will make it beyond 20,000 miles. How far beyond, I cannot say.

 

[NC-Rivian]

I replaced my 2 front 21" Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season tires this last March 16th., with the same. I have driven about 5,000 miles since then. About 30 miles in snow mode, many in Conserve, after seeing wear, switched to standard height. Now only drive in All Terrain standard height.
If I use the easy math of $1,000 for a pair of tires and figure I will be at the must replace point by the 6,000-mile use point, it will cost me .16.66 cents per mile in tire cost alone.
If my math is correct, that is like getting 30 MPG at about the California cost of about @5. per gallon. But this cost is for tires alone that are hard to find and twice the price of normal tires.
When I replaced the 2 front tires the tech did not see wear that said alignment issues existed. Those original tires got 17,000 mile range. I thought that was a bit short, but hey this is a heavy truck. Now I get almost a third of that in mileage before needing replacement! This is in 5 months. I do not do launch mode, I travel mostly highway, no off roading. I and am not a racer because my Honda C-RV All four SUV got well over 50,000 miles on its tires. And the brakes were about 50% wear at that point. I do not compare the 2 vehicles, I compare my driving style to that wear and mileage.

What I have described, is in my mind and history of owning trucks and cars, way out of line. If the tires were $150-$200, the cost would be cut in half, but the trouble getting tires is yet another very difficult task.

The rotation mileage recommendation is more than the tire life itself! I did not even look at my tires till I thought I should see if the tires needed rotation earlier than what I read in this site to be a rotation point. Some have said 9,000-mile increment is the recommended increment. Also, some have posted here that 5,000 miles is needed.

The cost for 21’s is absurd. I sure hope another manufacturer creates an affordable alternative. I replaced all 4 21’s at 17,600. I probably could have made it to 20k but I didn’t want to be the last one to use the parachute.

 

[DaveA]

I met someone at the RAN charger in San Antonio who is at 40k miles and 3rd set of 21s. I'm at 9k on 20s and not seeing any noticeable wear.

 

[SANZC02]

I agree I think it is driving style. The EV will chew tires faster than most similar ICE vehicles but not that fast unless really hammering starts, stops, and cornering.

The 22s on my R1S are between 7/32 and 8/32 left after 9300 miles. I rotated at 5500 miles will probably rotate again between 12 and 13k. Looks like I’m on target for about 26k for mine. That is around what I was expecting as I have been getting 28k-30k on the Tesla Model S tires.

I use conserve on the highways for longer trips (>100 miles). I also check/adjust my tire pressure every couple of weeks with a gauge and do not rely on the TPMS, TPMS is more for a safety measure, not for checking cold pressure.

 

[Greg Chick]

I have the 21s. I Drive in conserve mode often. Rotated at 9000 and 18000 miles. Now at over 25000 miles and plan to replace at around 30,000 miles. It seems a great deal of tire life is determined by driving style, I am a pretty mello driver and am seeing pretty good tread life.

A very big difference, do you use standard height and All Terrain setting? Do you drive short or long trips? Is the tread wear same on front as back?

 

[csharp]

Part of the issue is the lack of options in the 21", one of the reasons I went with 20"s. Many more options and much cheaper.
However, even with the 21s, you shouldn't be chewing through them that quickly. Sounds like you have an alignment issue or maybe are a heavier footed driver.

 

[Greg Chick]

I met someone at the RAN charger in San Antonio who is at 40k miles and 3rd set of 21s. I'm at 9k on 20s and not seeing any noticeable wear.

I'm jealous. I could find someone wanting to swap 20" for my 21" My rims are not curb gouged, and I have the factory covers. Actually have 6 not four. I carry a spare, as well can take two wheels to a shop to get two new tires and put them on myself. I have 4 pucks.

 

[Greg Chick]

Based on the way things are trending, it looks like our 21s will make it beyond 20,000 miles. How far beyond, I cannot say.

My rear do not seem to wear anything like the front, maybe 1 mm in 3,000 miles. The inside of the tire vs the outer tread is close to the same on the back. The front difference seems to be maybe 1 mm. difference inner vs outer tread at most. No cupping no noticeable uneven wear.

 

[Greg Chick]

Part of the issue is the lack of options in the 21", one of the reasons I went with 20"s. Many more options and much cheaper.
However, even with the 21s, you shouldn't be chewing through them that quickly. Sounds like you have an alignment issue or maybe are a heavier footed driver.

I got over 50K on my tires on my Honda CRV, I don't think I have a heavy foot, I'm 67 going on 68 and my wife will tell me if I'm speeding and if I do not use my blinker. I don't even think about showing off. I do punch it if needed while merging on to a freeway, or making a left turn, but not noticeable G force.

 

[Si.LE.R1S]

I replaced my 2 front 21" Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season tires this last March 16th., with the same. I

@Greg Chick Did the dealer say if there was a tread warranty with the new tires? Others have posted that the OEMs don’t offer and tread warranty, but replacement tires definitely should, right?

 

[emoore]

I got over 50K on my tires on my Honda CRV, I don't think I have a heavy foot, I'm 67 going on 68 and my wife will tell me if I'm speeding and if I do not use my blinker. I don't even think about showing off. I do punch it if needed while merging on to a freeway, or making a left turn, but not noticeable G force.

My guess would be heavy use of conserve mode that will kill your front tires.

 

[Budman]

A very big difference, do you use standard height and All Terrain setting? Do you drive short or long trips? Is the tread wear same on front as back?

About 1/3 of my total miles were in conserve at the “low” ride height. The rest in all purpose at standard height. A couple percent of the total were in snow/off-road/sport.

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