Circle K charging station experience by Out of Spec Kyle (with Rivian R1T)

[SASSquatch]

I thought appropriate etiquette was to post a brief synopsis of the video when we link to these.

Anyone have the few bullet point summary?

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[Count Orlok]

I thought appropriate etiquette was to post a brief synopsis of the video when we link to these.

Anyone have the few bullet point summary?

my take: he's still unwatchable.

 

[Dark-Fx]

It seems like one should be able to have a payment set up on their vehicle. Once the vehicle is plugged in, the inside screen on the vehicle should show the costs, speed, etc. related to the particular charger. The driver could then agree and have the cost charged to the payment associated with vehicle. It seems the charging stations could be seriously simplified and the experience would be consistent for all chargers since you would always interact with your own vehicle.

That sounds like a terrible experience to me. Not knowing what it's going to cost until you're already connected, no thanks. I'd also rather know the charge is going to work without having to get back into the vehicle afterwards.

 

[Goose]

Oh my goodness is that a needlessly complex, pointlessly expensive screen and payment system that will be prone to failures, coupled with a mediocre charging speed.

When will these charging manufacturers grasp the point that Tesla's simpler approach is the way to go? On-charger payment systems are about a absurd as toll booths.

You mean the payment system that has been on every gas station pump for the last couple decades? As others have said, a lot of people hate dealing with apps, I'm one of them. Walking up to the charger and tapping my credit card is a simple and recognizable system that makes it much easier for new EV buyers.

I'm pretty tech savvy, but I HATE when endlessly complicated tech gets in the way. It's the same reason the only "smart" device in our home is the doorbell.

 

[EBEG]

That sounds like a terrible experience to me. Not knowing what it's going to cost until you're already connected, no thanks. I'd also rather know the charge is going to work without having to get back into the vehicle afterwards.

The vehicle could easily have the cost information available on the map interface before arriving at the charger. Once the lightbar turns green after being plugged in, you know you are ready to charge before getting back in the vehicle. Alternatively, one could approve everything on the Rivian app so there would not be a need to get back in the vehicle. The bigger point is that the vehicle would be recognized by the charger, one could pay without needing to swipe a credit card, open a charging network app, or even have registered with that charging network.

 

[EBEG]

None of the current standards support anything of that sort. Tesla only gets away with richer info in-car because they control the whole stack and do comms over a wireless protocol rather than through the physical connection.

I know it's a dream.

 

[Singletracker]

I don’t have my R1T, as yet, and have no EV experience. As I look forward to the day when I do have my Rivian, the charging network, or lack thereof, is my biggest concern. I’m sorry, but I don’t understand why the purchasing process for electrons should be much different than the purchasing process for gas at a gas station. One should be able to insert a CC, wave one’s phone/watch at the terminal, or pay cash, just as we have all become accustomed to. I’m reasonably tech savvy and basically never use cash, for anything. But, I don’t want to have to load multiple apps on my iPhone and have to jump through different hoops for each individual service facility. That‘s just frickin’ stupid. I’m sure there will come a day when these systems become more standardized, but, until then, it sounds like a cluster f**k, to me, and will only discourage people from transitioning to EV’s.

 

[moosehead]

Burying the Lead.

Biggest news is OOS does an 18 minute video rather than a Marvel length movie.

 

[zefram47]

Burying the Lead.

Biggest news is OOS does an 18 minute video rather than a Marvel length movie.

I lol'd, but I frequently watch their content at 1.5x and that really makes them fly by.

 

[gingerjet]

The vehicle could easily have the cost information available on the map interface before arriving at the charger. Once the lightbar turns green after being plugged in, you know you are ready to charge before getting back in the vehicle. Alternatively, one could approve everything on the Rivian app so there would not be a need to get back in the vehicle. The bigger point is that the vehicle would be recognized by the charger, one could pay without needing to swipe a credit card, open a charging network app, or even have registered with that charging network.

"could easily" and then you describe an overly complicated set of steps that make assumptions that aren't valid.

Here is what it should take:
Step 1: tap your card
Step 2: plug in your EV

You add any additional steps to that process - then you've failed.

 

[mmiles2012]

I know it's a dream.

https://www.gocariq.com

Your dreams, answered.

 

[mmiles2012]

So, some early customer research from an idea i've pitched around: take an app you're using already for vehicle-related work. If they offered you the opportunity to buy EV credits usable across multiple networks, would you?

 

[jakef801]

tool

I love "Tool" - the band, not this guy.

 

[Singletracker]

I lol'd, but I frequently watch their content at 1.5x and that really makes them fly by.

Brilliant!!! How come I never thought of that ? Don’t answer that.

 

[CrazyOne]

How is having a screen more complicated than integrating with every EV manufacturer's proprietary software?

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