Condor
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Do we need to worry about the load difference (115 vs 116)?
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115 load to 2679 and 116 to 2756......so total weight difference of 308lbs for all 4 tires. probably will be sufficient (115 can handle 10,716lbs over all 4 tires) but can't say for sure. Not a tire guy...Do we need to worry about the load difference (115 vs 116)?
I asked Pirelli customer service how the new Scorpion AS Plus 3 compares with the Scorpion Verde in terms of snow traction and rolling resistance. Here's their answer:If you get the 20"s you can swap the tires at some point for the same all season tire that's on the 21's "pirelli Verde all season" have them in 275/60 R20. may even get a little better range than the 21's because of he smaller tire size.
https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/car/catalog/product/scorpion-verde-all-season-plus-ii/275_60-r20
I 100% agree. I’m not wiling to sacrifice range but I would love to have options.I'm curious if the 15% degraded range with 20" AT tires would then match the 21" range if the AT tires are replaced with all-season highway tires. This would get me the best range without the anxiety of having a custom sized tire.
116 to 115 isn't gonig to make a serious difference.115 load to 2679 and 116 to 2756......so total weight difference of 308lbs for all 4 tires. probably will be sufficient (115 can handle 10,716lbs over all 4 tires) but can't say for sure. Not a tire guy...
I would like to know how these AS 20 inch Pirelli's compare in rolling resistance to the 21 inch AS Pirelli's specifically designed for Rivian...will similar range be achieved, and recover the lost 10-15% range loss of the AT tires? I want the 20 AT tires, but also want something for longer range when off-roading is not desired. I don't want to purchase 2 sizes of rims...I asked Pirelli customer service how the new Scorpion AS Plus 3 compares with the Scorpion Verde in terms of snow traction and rolling resistance. Here's their answer:
"The Scorpion AS Plus 3 is the successor to the Scorpion Verde All Season Plus II, which has now been discontinued. The Scorpion AS Plus 3 should perform comparably or better than the Plus II in the snow as well as rolling resistance.
Thank you,
Pirelli Consumer Affairs"
Anecdotal and obviously not complying with the letter of the law, but when I had my Sprinter in the Tahoe area for the storm in early 2019, I got the "4 fingers?" wave from the CalTrans chain check guy to which I replied by nodding and holding up 4 fingers back, and he waved me right through.If I have snow tires on a heavy-duty commercial vehicle, do I need to carry chains?Yes. There is no exemption for heavy-duty commercial vehicles (over 6,500 pounds gross weight) equipped with snow tires. Chains must be installed on heavy-duty commercial vehicles whenever chain controls are posted.
I've never worked with a manufacturer that would void the warranty for swapping out a tire - that said, I've never worked with an EV manufacturer. The typical warranty language is, if your modification can be blamed for a failure, you're likely out of luck. If a failure is unrelated to your modification, all is well. Rivian can make strong recommendations about which tire to use, and by virtue of their design they've limited the options already, but I doubt the warranty is in play for a tire swap.Also, will Rivian void the warranty if one purchases the 20 inch AT tires, and then switches them out for these AS tires for better range? It has been a couple of months since a CS chat on this issue, and they were NOT recommending anything other than the stock Rivian tires at that time, but would not comment about warranty issues.
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/all-tire-options-for-21-and-22-wheels.6679/#post-174234This thread hasn't been touched for a while...any new developments on 21" tire options?
I think the TLDR is "no"... I'm actually hoping someone will create a similar list of all 20" aftermarket wheels that'll fit on the Rivian with all its crazy offsets. Seems like it'll be easier to get stock 21s and find a 20" wheel to put winter tires on. I just don't want some crazy expensive custom wheel.This thread hasn't been touched for a while...any new developments on 21" tire options?
Thanks yep, that's why I created that other post...just want to make sure there wasn't anything ground breaking. Boy...looking rough on 21" options.I think the TLDR is "no"... I'm actually hoping someone will create a similar list of all 20" aftermarket wheels that'll fit on the Rivian with all its crazy offsets. Seems like it'll be easier to get stock 21s and find a 20" wheel to put winter tires on. I just don't want some crazy expensive custom wheel.