Camera controls option needed in a software update

[Rickmc]

I have had my R1T for 2 years now and keep it in the garage.

I really wish Rivian would add this oh so simple software update to the camera procedures.

CURRENTLY
Put it in reverse and the camera shows on the main screen with the rear tailgate camera selected
That goes away when you put it in drive and reverts to the last selected main screen (nav for example)
Works great.

However, if you pulled into your garage the night before and you manually select the front camera view so you don't hit anything and are able to pull in close to the back wall, that's the main screen mode you left it in.

Fast forward to the next morning, you back out and main screen goes to rear backup camera. so far so good. Put it in drive (or after a predetermined time period) and it reverts to the last used main screen (from last night - front camera view). This is very distracting so you immediately try and switch it to Nav.

It's like my old infinity, you had to press the "Agree" button every single day that you accepted the TOS for using gps while driving. Pita.

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When you press GARAGE button to open / close your garage, immediately bring up front camera on main screen. This would be temporary just like the reverse camera when you put it in reverse. I.e. it goes back to last selected main screen once you put it in park

Fast forward to the next morning, you are on NAV screen while in garage. You back out of garage (main screen on reverse camera due to being in reverse). Shift to drive and the screen reverts back to the last used screen (NAV).

When you hit garage door to close, main screen shows camera (unless you already have Reverse camera superseding it) and then as you drive forward just like when it skips out of reverse camera, it skips out back to last used screen (NAV).

I believe the great majority of drivers turn the camera on when pulling into a tight garage. If they don't, they certainly wouldn't be opposed to it as long as it went back to the previous main screen selection.

It would be a great way to remove that constant toggling of modes every single morning.

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[beatle]

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When you press GARAGE button to open / close your garage, immediately bring up front camera on main screen. This would be temporary just like the reverse camera when you put it in reverse. I.e. it goes back to last selected main screen once you put it in park

I don't think I'd like this. My truck doesn't fit in my garage, but I still open the garage door to get into the house. I open the garage door as I get close to my house, and then I back into a portion of my driveway on the side of my house adjacent to the garage door. This is probably not typical, but I'm also probably not the only one either. The same would apply if one chose to back into the driveway in front of their garage door. I'd hate having the front camera pop on simply because I triggered the garage door to open.

Similarly, I back into the garage at my parents' house to put the passenger side doors up against the garage wall so I can get out on the driver's side. I use the opener there as well and the front camera coming on while I start to reverse would be an annoyance.

I agree that most would benefit from the front camera automatically coming on when pulling into a tight parking spot, but instead, turn on the front camera when the ultrasonic sensor detects something very close. This would need to be user defeatable to avoid it popping up in gridlock traffic though, and it's probably why Rivian didn't implement this behavior in the first place. This would help though when pulling into any parking space - whether a garage door opening is involved or not.

 

[Rickmc]

I don't think I'd like this. My truck doesn't fit in my garage, but I still open the garage door to get into the house. I open the garage door as I get close to my house, and then I back into a portion of my driveway on the side of my house adjacent to the garage door. This is probably not typical, but I'm also probably not the only one either. The same would apply if one chose to back into the driveway in front of their garage door. I'd hate having the front camera pop on simply because I triggered the garage door to open.

Similarly, I back into the garage at my parents' house to put the passenger side doors up against the garage wall so I can get out on the driver's side. I use the opener there as well and the front camera coming on while I start to reverse would be an annoyance.

I agree that most would benefit from the front camera automatically coming on when pulling into a tight parking spot, but instead, turn on the front camera when the ultrasonic sensor detects something very close. This would need to be user defeatable to avoid it popping up in gridlock traffic though, and it's probably why Rivian didn't implement this behavior in the first place. This would help though when pulling into any parking space - whether a garage door opening is involved or not.

Honestly, all those scenarios you gave are irrelevant and would not affect you.


RULE: when you press garage door opener, it TEMPORARILY goes to the camera in the same way the putting it in reverse temporarily goes to the camera. It would just revert back to whatever screen you were on when you parked on the street etc.

RULE: Reverse camera always takes precedence so if you press garage door opener and than back up into the driveway, no problem, you wouldn't even notice because it would be in reverse camera as it currently is. Once you put it in park it reverts back to prior screen

Or, Rivian could make it a toggle option in the settings like so many other options like Kneel mode.

 

[SANZC02]

Honestly, all those scenarios you gave are irrelevant and would not affect you.


RULE: when you press garage door opener, it TEMPORARILY goes to the camera in the same way the putting it in reverse temporarily goes to the camera. It would just revert back to whatever screen you were on when you parked on the street etc.

RULE: Reverse camera always takes precedence so if you press garage door opener and than back up into the driveway, no problem, you wouldn't even notice because it would be in reverse camera as it currently is. Once you put it in park it reverts back to prior screen

Or, Rivian could make it a toggle option in the settings like so many other options like Kneel mode.

You should setup a poll on this, would be interesting to see what people think.

I have a tight turn in my driveway so set the camera up as one of my buttons always on the app bar. I usually turn them on for the eagle eye view but have never found it to be an issue touching the icon to pull it up.

 

[beatle]

Honestly, all those scenarios you gave are irrelevant and would not affect you.


RULE: when you press garage door opener, it TEMPORARILY goes to the camera in the same way the putting it in reverse temporarily goes to the camera. It would just revert back to whatever screen you were on when you parked on the street etc.

RULE: Reverse camera always takes precedence so if you press garage door opener and than back up into the driveway, no problem, you wouldn't even notice because it would be in reverse camera as it currently is. Once you put it in park it reverts back to prior screen

Or, Rivian could make it a toggle option in the settings like so many other options like Kneel mode.

That's different if the direction of travel takes precedence, but that wasn't explained in your original post. In that case, triggering the front camera to come on wouldn't be a problem if you're pulling into a garage.

 

[Rickmc]

You should setup a pole on this, would be interesting to see what people think.

I have a tight turn in my driveway so set the camera up as one of my buttons always on the app bar. I usually turn them on for the eagle eye view but have never found it to be an issue touching the icon to pull it up.

everyday for 2 years I have done the finger dance where get home, I stop at my stop sign by my house, press the garage door button, look down and press the camera button then pull in. Every time I leave my house, multiple times a day, I put it in reverse, back out and put it in drive as I get moving I have to divert my eyes from the road and look for the navigation button and press it as I'm moving.

This seems like nothing until you do it 365 days x 3 or 4 times a day coming and going. It's just an unnecessary burden when it makes so much sense to make the system work for you just like the reverse camera does.

Imagine if the Reverse did not put it in the camera mode to see behind you? There would be a line of people saying "I have no problem using the mirrors", "I have no problem touching the camera button to turn it on when I reverse."

Unless there is a detrimental reason behind not doing it, I don't see why anyone would object

 

[ORFynder]

I believe we should see the cameras automatically come on when the vehicle slows down very soon (probably less than 5 mph) that way when u pull into your garage, no more finger dances to turn the camera on

 

[Dark-Fx]

Unless there is a detrimental reason behind not doing it, I don't see why anyone would object

Behavior of the camera is dictated by FMVSS.

I think you can effectively get what you're asking for if you quickly put the vehicle in reverse and then forwards again after hitting the garage door button. If I'm understanding right.

 

[VSG]

Or, you know, you could just tell Alexa to show the navigation / show the camera when you want to switch. That's hands-free and non-distracting and doesn't require hunting for buttons while turning the wheel and keeping watch for pedestrians etc. And it doesn't require the software to guess what you want and possibly do the wrong thing.

 

[Rickmc]

Or, you know, you could just tell Alexa to show the navigation / show the camera when you want to switch. That's hands-free and non-distracting and doesn't require hunting for buttons while turning the wheel and keeping watch for pedestrians etc. And it doesn't require the software to guess what you want and possibly do the wrong thing.

Not seeing a difference in the process of the system putting the camera in reverse view when you shift into reverse vs the system putting the camera in the front camera view when pressing the garage door opener.

Both should be temporary switching in the exact same way the reverse camera works.

Very easy for programmers to put this behavior behind a settings on/off toggle.

 

[R1Tom]

Or, you know, you could just tell Alexa to show the navigation / show the camera when you want to switch. That's hands-free and non-distracting and doesn't require hunting for buttons while turning the wheel and keeping watch for pedestrians etc. And it doesn't require the software to guess what you want and possibly do the wrong thing.

No software guessing needed....in the absence of AI that can watch how I behave and make the setting adjustments to mirror my behavior, they could simply put a toggle in settings, like everything else some people want and some don't, so user can define desired behavior.

I would love automatic camera trigger when drop below 5mph when toggle is selected to do so.

Also helps me keep an eye on surroundings when I have to be in less desirable areas....keep me ready to rock and roll if needed....

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I like the way it works now, but I would be open to either the cameras coming on automatically at a certain speed as was suggested, or having a way to toggle a screen to one of the buttons on the steering wheel. Long press on the left buttons cycle through the efficiency, tire pressure and nav screens on the left. What do long presses on the right wheel do? Nothing AFAIK.

Let me map a long press to the right side right arrow to turn on the camera screen and have the camera facing the direction I'm going. Forward for D and back for R. That would be really nice.

 

[VSG]

the system putting the camera in the front camera view when pressing the garage door opener

What about people who back into their garage? Or park in an office or condo garage? Or are trying to pull into a parking space away from their garage door, or who just need to see the ground in front of them while going over a tricky patch off pavement?

Your ask is for a very specific feature for a very specific use case, when you already have an easy-to-use method of switching to/from the camera view WHENEVER YOU WANT and which works for EVERY use case.

And that's all I'm saying - not that your desire is wrong, just that you can already do this so why do we need a new feature?

I DO NOT want ~100 buttons on my dash like my Ford, and I DO NOT want buttons overloaded in a dozen different ways each. Rivian should spend the effort improving their integration with the voice assistant IMO rather than trying to automate edge cases.

 

[Rickmc]

I like the way it works now, but I would be open to either the cameras coming on automatically at a certain speed as was suggested, or having a way to toggle a screen to one of the buttons on the steering wheel. Long press on the left buttons cycle through the efficiency, tire pressure and nav screens on the left. What do long presses on the right wheel do? Nothing AFAIK.

Let me map a long press to the right side right arrow to turn on the camera screen and have the camera facing the direction I'm going. Forward for D and back for R. That would be really nice.

it already goes into reverse camera mode when you put in reverse...

Long pressing would be a new nightmare to me.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

it already goes into reverse camera mode when you put in reverse...

Long pressing would be a new nightmare to me.

They would keep the auto mode for reverse in my scenario. The long press would be an additional way to trigger the cameras. Then I can turn the cameras on without needing to touch the screen. Basically keep it working the exact same way as it does now, but allow you to map the long press of those buttons to bring up any main screen you wanted.

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