My R1S rear ended a delivery truck - results

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

This is why I like using adaptive cruise control while in situations where my senses can get overloaded like when trying to quickly change lanes at the last moment.

One piece of advise that I got from my sister decades ago was to be careful with my tendency to be singularly focused. I think advice saved my bacon countless of times because I'm consciously aware of it.

Better to just chill, take the next/wrong exit and reroute than to try to make the right exit "last minute".

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[s0ysauce]

this 100%. not saying this about op, just making a generalized comment about drivers. too many people can't be bothered to reroute and will cause a traffic scene, others be damned.

Better to just chill, take the next/wrong exit and reroute than to try to make the right exit "last minute".

 

[s4wrxttcs]

Better to just chill, take the next/wrong exit and reroute than to try to make the right exit "last minute".

I was referring to the situation the OP was talking about. Where there is time to get over, but you need to hurry it up.

Like the last minute before an exit. Definitely not the last 15 seconds or so. That's just dangerous and I wish drivers wouldn't do that. So I do agree with your post even if that wasn't quite what I meant.

Good navigation can immensely help with being chill. Sadly the Rivian Navigation isn't there yet.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I was referring to the situation the OP was talking about. Where there is time to get over, but you need to hurry it up.

Like the last minute before an exit. Definitely not the last 15 seconds or so. That's just dangerous and I wish drivers wouldn't do that. So I do agree with your post even if that wasn't quite what I meant.

Good navigation can immensely help with being chill. Sadly the Rivian Navigation isn't there yet.

In a small nimble car with good power to weight ratio, one could get a way with more (or more accurately, less time and less distance). Still not recommended. Too many what-if factors. You could put one tire on a patch of dust/debris, lose traction, mess up your trajectory, or lose control. Regardless of size and performance, I've seen too many close calls and actual accidents where someone tried to cut over "at the last minute". It just shouldn't be done if you don't want to risk, life, limb or property. It's not like taking the next exist is going to land you sudden in the middle of a war zone. Extra few minutes of transit time is a small price to pay. Just last week I saw a Ford Transit nail a off-ramp divider because they thought they could change their mind at the last minute. Lucky only one vehicle involved.

 

[s4wrxttcs]

In a small nimble car with good power to weight ratio, one could get a way with more (or more accurately, less time and less distance). Still not recommended. Too many what-if factors. You could put one tire on a patch of dust/debris, lose traction, mess up your trajectory, or lose control. Regardless of size and performance, I've seen too many close calls and actual accidents where someone tried to cut over "at the last minute". It just shouldn't be done if you don't want to risk, life, limb or property. It's not like taking the next exist is going to land you sudden in the middle of a war zone. Extra few minutes of transit time is a small price to pay. Just last week I saw a Ford Transit nail a off-ramp divider because they thought they could change their mind at the last minute. Lucky only one vehicle involved.

I think we're talking about two things.

Where what differentiates between the two is time.

That there is time to get over, but you need to hurry it up a bit. Where its not really even in the grey area.

I'm definitely opposed to last second dash for the exit kind of thing.

 

[R1 EVY]

I just say congrats for being human (like most of us). Accidents are a part of life ?.

Everyone is healthy and you can afford to get it fixed so no harm, no foul.

That said, Jake from State Farm had better represent like a good neighbor.

 

[HaveBlue]

I've had the emergency braking activate numerous times and slam on the brakes to a stop. It usually happens while following someone and they are slowing to make a right turn. The system thinks I'm going to rear end them though they will be gone around the corner by the time I get there. The other day I was slowing coming up to stopped traffic on a 25mph city street. It also freaked out and slammed on the brakes. I'm not a tailgating type person.

Lexis Nexis is compiling connected car data and providing it to Insurance companies. Likely they consider this hazardous driving every time the car freaks out.

The automatic braking might not function if you "lane change" back behind someone as it won't have enough time to figure what's going on and the differential speed between vehicles. It definitely has a narrow perception compared to a human but in certain situations will save someone from a rear end scenario.

 

[Jeffh32]

Monday morning, I was driving from NJ to NY (JFK airport) to pick up my wife and on the Verrazzano bridge my truck GPS prompted me to stay on 278 instead of Belt Parkway. It was peak hour traffic and I had to change 2 lanes to the right to stay on 278 and got distracted for few seconds until truck’s front crash warning popped up. I tried to break as much as possible but still ended up rear ending the delivery truck.


The impact seemed to be on the right side as you can see in the pic. No injuries to anyone. I have taken an appointment with an authorized body shop and now waiting for the sticker shock.


After 23 years it was my time to make a mistake. Worst part of it is now I must hear from my teenage daughter that my driving is bad .


Obviously, vehicle is drivable no issues except the ACC. All the sensors in the front and camera seems to be working fine, but for some reason, ACC does not engage itself. Cruise works on its own, but it tries to detect the vehicle in the front and then throws an error.


I did a full reset of the truck and the ACC worked for few min and then throws an error. I did not capture pic of the error will try to post one. I am not sure of this is a software issue or a part issue.

I had an issue with the ACC "detecting a system error" and shutting down and not coming back up during the drive. It would work sporadically and would cut off sometimes. I called did, did a reset and it still failed. It was an issue for a few months till I could make time to take it in to the service center. The R1T was new and I figured it's probably a camera issue. They ended up replacing the front camera because it was loose. Fixed the problem was done in the same day. With the ACC, I was told it uses the cameras to process information so obviously looks like one of them took some damage so doubtful it'll work till that gets fixed.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

Better to just chill, take the next/wrong exit and reroute than to try to make the right exit "last minute".

I see this on the interstate sometimes. People realize they’re about to miss their exit then they fly across multiple lanes of traffic, cutting people off, and drive on or across the shoulder of the road. It’s very dangerous, especially at high speeds. It isn’t worth it. There’s always the next exit and rerouting to get you back on track.

 

[Dave Cundiff]

@chadagap: I agree with other posters. This crash sounds preventable. But I don't walk in your shoes.

I can understand how, while one is trying to "do the right thing" in a complex situation, errors happen. I make errors, and I watch others make errors. We're all learning.

Glad all the people are unharmed. Hope all the stuff can be fixed at a reasonable price.

Very best wishes!

 

[chadagap]

Obviously it is my mistake and it should not have happened. I made that clear n my post. I am glad there is a 23 year gap between mistakes. Mistakes happen we cannot avoid it for ever. I am glad nobody was injured and it was minor.

Coming back to the ACC not working, according to the shop guy, there is an additional sensor which works along with the front camera. He thinks that might be broken.

But i noticed something strange while driving yesterday. It is able to detect a 18 wheeler in front and i can activate ACC then. But it is not able to detect cars. I am struggling to understand how is a sensor detecting a 18 wheeler but not a car in front. Has the sensor angle changed? I dont see any difference in the front camera pictures.

 

[chadagap]

@chadagap: I agree with other posters. This crash sounds preventable. But I don't walk in your shoes.

I can understand how, while one is trying to "do the right thing" in a complex situation, errors happen. I make errors, and I watch others make errors. We're all learning.

Glad all the people are unharmed. Hope all the stuff can be fixed at a reasonable price.

Very best wishes!

Thanks for the support. at this point it seems everthing is fixable and no major damage. I will get the estimate today.

 

[zefram47]

Obviously it is my mistake and it should not have happened. I made that clear n my post. I am glad there is a 23 year gap between mistakes. Mistakes happen we cannot avoid it for ever. I am glad nobody was injured and it was minor.

You'd probably catch less flack if you changed the title of the post. The way you worded it certainly sounds like you're blaming the truck because AEB didn't activate in time.

But i noticed something strange while driving yesterday. It is able to detect a 18 wheeler in front and i can activate ACC then. But it is not able to detect cars. I am struggling to understand how is a sensor detecting a 18 wheeler but not a car in front. Has the sensor angle changed? I dont see any difference in the front camera pictures.

There are supposedly 3 radars in the front bumper in addition to a bunch of ultrasonic sensors. The primary radar is in the middle of the panel that has the headlights in it. If that radar was damaged or otherwise knocked out of the alignment it was calibrated with it would make sense that ACC wouldn't work. As for working with a semi and not a car, if it's now aimed higher then it would still be able to see the semi, but might shoot right over a car, person, cyclist, etc. So even if it does work...definitely don't trust it to stop or slow down on its own properly until repaired.

 

[Riviot]

Went to the body shop. First impressions, they do not think the damage is big. Front panel replacement, hood repainting and replacing light strip. Obviously, things can change if they find more. I will have full details tomorrow.

Totaled.

But i noticed something strange while driving yesterday. It is able to detect a 18 wheeler in front and i can activate ACC then. But it is not able to detect cars. I am struggling to understand how is a sensor detecting a 18 wheeler but not a car in front. Has the sensor angle changed? I dont see any difference in the front camera pictures.

Front radar is under the damaged non-grill, probably took a wack. Also, your sensors might "look" fine but I'm reality got jostled and aren't aligned. It just takes a 20 minute drive down a dusty road for mine to turn off.

 

[chadagap]

You'd probably catch less flack if you changed the title of the post. The way you worded it certainly sounds like you're blaming the truck because AEB didn't activate in time.


There are supposedly 3 radars in the front bumper in addition to a bunch of ultrasonic sensors. The primary radar is in the middle of the panel that has the headlights in it. If that radar was damaged or otherwise knocked out of the alignment it was calibrated with it would make sense that ACC wouldn't work. As for working with a semi and not a car, if it's now aimed higher then it would still be able to see the semi, but might shoot right over a car, person, cyclist, etc. So even if it does work...definitely don't trust it to stop or slow down on its own properly until repaired.

I am not blaming anyone else here nor the car. Infact i started braking after i got the warning.

Thanks for the explanation. This explains the message on the screen where it shows three sensors as being not available. I am not using the cruise or ACC for now until everything was fixed. I was just surprised yesterday when it detected the 18 wheeler so tried activating the ACC and it worked.

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