Cybertruck. The beauty isn’t even skin deep.

[Socalx]

So just saw a review showing the cybertruck with its wheels off on a lift. This is truly sad as it is nothing compared to a Rivian! Cost cutting isn’t hidden at all and is slaps the founding members paying 120k in the face.

Like everyone else , at first glance I truly was impressed that the cybertruck had 800 volt architecture and 48v low voltage, steer by wire and 4 wheel steering.

However I was conflicted as I thought it was ugly as hell and not the future of what I’m wanted to stare out in my garage but now they took its wheels off and showed her on a lift. The analogy is kind of like the quiet person in the room that starts talking and removes all doubt about their stupidity.

impressions.
- front suspension is like a model s passenger car just taller.. It is not the beautiful forged aluminum Rivian purpose built off road suspension.
- front swaybar is huge and conventional, not suited to articulation like the Rivian hydraulic McLaren supercar inspired swaybar less suspension that can be firm in sport mode and then be nothing in rock crawl.
- front calipers are not even finished just raw unfinished material.
- no skid plate or off road protection underneath, the reviewing In company said they like Tesla would offer bolt on skid plates for those that wanted to go off road,. However what will they and Tesla offer to really make it have off road capability’s? Like sway bar disconnects or some solution to offer the missing off road articulation?
- rear suspension had stamped steel lower arms, Again cheap and not the forged aluminum off road and on road Rivian design, just cheap!
- rear calipers look like they are sand cast and off some other small low end Tesla.

the above combined with them fact the cyber truck is less efficient then Rivian makes me doubt Tesla range claims. This is a vehicle that it appears all the money went into the ugly stainless body and drive by wire steering. But it has a more then 10 percent smaller battery kw capacity and cost cutting throughout. ( you want a compressor to air down pay extra, You want max pack, pay 15k extra and lose 33 percent of the bed permanently while we pay Rivian the patent for range extenders. This is the cyber joke, it is a sedan with the ugliest Tesla vision of what an ugly future truck would look like.

at this point my initial optimism for the cybertruck has be replaced by admiration for Rivians approach to quality and superior on and off road capabilities.

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[DuoRivians]

This the video you saw? Yeah I agree with your points:

 

[seanocono]

Thanks for the review. I am going to check out that video now. None of this surprises me, but I am curious to see it myself now.

 

[SSteveEV]

@OP

 

[not_a_car_guy]

Disclaimer: there’s a few things I do like about the cyber truck and I hope Rivian can adopt without compromising what makes Rivian’s architecture so unique and awesome.

But I had to share this because it made me laugh out loud. On a podcast I was listening to, they said the cyber truck inspired the new term : “sport futility vehicle”

 

[COdogman]

But it has ”custom 30x” stainless steel and an “exoskelton“! ?

 

[manitou202]

Funny they use 3mm stainless steel for the body panels, but thin aluminum sheet metal for the underbody protection. Also no protection for the battery.

No real offroad performance in mind.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I think Tesla overspent a lot with their 48V system and it's going to be a problem for the foreseeable future for them. Sending those papers out to the other auto manufacturers was to hope they get on board and the costs come down industry wide.

 

[usofrob]

Interesting video. Hey, there are tow hooks!

Also, I agree with the OP's original post. There is some good tech in there, but there is also a lot of cost cutting that Tesla has been very good at. I've been realizing more recently that they're building an entry level quality vehicles well enough that and with enough history that people will pay Apple prices.

 

[DuoRivians]

Also, look at that charging rate at 35% SoC. 148kW, nowhere close 250kW. Yes at a V3 charger

 

[SANZC02]

Also, look at that charging rate at 35% SoC. 148kW, nowhere close 250kW. Yes at a V3 charger

To be fate that could be a 150kW v2 charger. It certainly looks like the thicker v2 cable.

 

[DuoRivians]

To be fate that could be a 150kW v2 charger. It certainly looks like the thicker v2 cable.

It’s a v3.

 

[moosetags]

All in all, I like the CT. There is a lot of good EV tech in there.

Brian

 

[VSG]

But it has ”custom 30x” stainless steel and an “exoskelton“!

Please stop misquoting Elon. Like the sign says, it's not an "exoskeleton", it's an "exosekelton".

 

[mini2nut]

Funny they use 3mm stainless steel for the body panels, but thin aluminum sheet metal for the underbody protection. Also no protection for the battery.

No real offroad performance in mind.

3mm is incorrect.

Tesla uses 1.8mm (door skins) and 1.4mm HFS (Hard -ucking Steel) stainless steel panels for the Cybertruck.

For reference a US quarter is 1.75mm thick.

Thanks to a new proprietary SS formula designed by their material science engineers they were able to thin down the concept trucks SS to save weight and still get the durability they wanted.

The SS arrives to TX in rolls and is then uncoiled using specialized production machinery. After that the panels are laser cut to the proper dimensions before being bent into shape with a proprietary air bending machine. The SS never touches the machine to avoid cosmetic blemishes.

I was surprised to learn that even the inner door shell is stamped from durable SS. The SS sheet gets heated cherry red before being inserted into a large stamping press.

photo of drivers side 1.8mm thick SS door skin right before it gets laser welded to the SS inner door shell

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