Too complex to use while driving, or parking.

[HeyEllwood]

the main reason The Count desires a large, preferably analog, odometer on the main driving screen is to be able to properly note momentous events, such as the vehicle turning over 100,000 or every time it hits xx420.

The Count must not forget 69xxx, xx,x69 etc.

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[racekarl]

You conveniently left the rest of my quote out " You may still hear some noises briefly but they'll stop shortly. "

It's still not true that "everything is how you left it" if you want to play semantic games.

 

[Inkedsphynx]

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[TexasBob]

I feel like the #1 takeaway here is give us Gaia GPS integration for better remote maps.

 

[Greg Chick]

The fun is only beginning. My Tesla has had 2 “major“ updates since I had it that made huge changes to the UI causing me to relearn everything. Compare it to a phone or PC major OS update. I usually complain under my breath at first as I relearn things but for the most part I end up thinking it is better. ?

Lose lips sink ships, I have a hard time not saying. However, it is good info for Rivian to access if they do. They should. We are all being beta tested on by most all emerging industries.

 

[Greg Chick]

Funny, I was just flipping through Consumer Reports and they gave the R1S a terrible score, a 57, mostly for 'Useability'. There's definitely a learning curve but I think it's a much more pleasant driving experience. I think they gave the early Tesla's similar scores.

If I'm going somewhere and I don't actually know where it is, I put it in the navigation. I don' t need an odometer because I can see on the screen where on the map I am and where my destination is. Even without navigation, I still have a map and my location on it.

A lot of your arguments sound like the argument someone made about being drunk with a car. You might forget where you left the car, you might be too incapacitated to drive it, and you might not be able to remember where you live to drive home. But if you got drunk and had a horse, all you had to do was hold on and the horse knew how to get home.

But as a society, we went with cars instead of horses. Leaving things on is a feature, not a bug. If you don't like that, I'm sure someone will sell you a vehicle with a button.

Not all directions come via google, or are registered in google or are not urban. The use of someones drive way seems to have suggested all I am mentioning is a noted iconic google recognized destination that I want to go and since I'm drunk need an odometer. I admit I am retorting a bit snarky, but my point is we have advanced but ease of use has not kept up.
Ok we have Alexa, but speaking of drunk, she drinks. She can be a ditz.
Another application of an ODO is marking long fence lines or how many trees in a mile, or other more geo spicific items. If I do a litter pick up project for Caltrans, (California Hwy Dept.), I need bench marks for bag drops, like so many miles or fractions therefrom, the bags are dropped. Are we doing a half mile an hour of litter pick up or what.
If your world has no application for an ODO, thats great, but there are applications for quick n easy access to noting the mile post.
As well, the post was about a general concept, not any denial of having a totally digital life being beyond me or not good for anyone.

 

[Greg Chick]

Yeah it's not too bad. No worse than a Rivian, probably easier than that honestly. If you're importing trail maps and things that can get tricky but just using the basic functionality it's pretty much plug and play. Everything is moving tech wise these days, even construction. Many big jobs are coordinated now and you lay out with a Total Station. Really precise but there's really a learning curve with that stuff. Totally different than getting the print and some string out with your apprentice.

Yea, not to mention Lazer measuring and leveling and thermal imaging for heat loss... Yea I remember when building plans were on Blueprints and such.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Yea, not to mention Lazer measuring and leveling and thermal imaging for heat loss... Yea I remember when building plans were on Blueprints and such.

Yeah the total station is a robot that tells you within a 32nd where your sleeves go and where all your mechanicals need to be stubbed out. It uses laser positioning and a digital blueprint to know where it is and you are in real space vs where the print is. It's strange to start using but so nice and unbelievably accurate. I've had a few jobs myself where I had to go through actual blueprints for as builds. Old buildings still have rooms full of those things.

 

[srkz]

As a youth, when someone starts giving me directions that include turns and landmarks I just politely smile and stop listening until they’re done, then say “great! oh, and what’s the address again?” and follow my GPS to it.

30% of the time they’ll caution “don’t use the address, GPS always takes you to the wrong place!” because they tried it once on Mapquest 15 years ago and had a bad experience. I do it anyway, and it works fine.

ODO should be on the dash though - it’s been on the dash since it was invented and it doesn’t take much space.

Wassym has mentioned that they’re working on a multi-use widget area that you can pin various bits of info to. s00n

 

[miasm]

Put the odo on the dash, it belongs there.
I have a place far from cell service with some complicated turns.

Sending multiple “pins“ or GPS cords of “turn left here” and then “right here” versus the old directions of “after 1.4 miles turn right, then 2.2 miles later turn left” has resulted in like orders of magnitude fewer people getting lost. Driving to a pin on a map is soooo much more foolproof.

 

[Dacer]

Let's say you need to drive 8 tenths of a mile past a directed point, you look at your dash and see no odometer. A simple thing of the past, glance and see the OD and you could follow directions. Now you need to reach way over and find the Odometer, and it is not obvious or easy. So, you pull over and "Go fish". I ask you now, as you read this, can you even think the screen taps sequence and do so sitting at your computer? let alone while driving safely?
How about some numbers that stay on the driver's screen unless you pull over and turn them off?

Now, another old thing that was easy, turn off the vehicle and the AC stopped, the radio stopped, everything stopped. No need to search to see what is on and turn it off. PS, don't forget the little dots next to the seats for the AC, and notice if the radio is on but the volume down below the ambient noise so you can see it's on.
I look at the screen and see the dimmed words and icons that are always there and wonder if they are off or on. As well what pages do I need to search to see if something is running.
My points are just that it used to be easier to control simple things on a dashboard. To make matters worse, the power draw could be a problem if you were away from the car a long time.

By the way, I can't find the "Dos" to stop the kneeling and rising of my R1T every time I walk by it while at a friends house as well the locks and such. He asks, "What is your truck doing?" I reply, it's a smart truck, it's getting it's exercise.

Sounds like you need to stick with an ICE car. Old dogs can't learn new tricks.

 

[kizamybute']

I really wish Rivian would do like Tesla and allow us to display trip meters on the left side of the driver gauge cluster. Such a pain in the rear to get to that page as of a couple of update ago. I use it all the time and really wish it was something I could just leave up all the time.

 

[Zoidz]

Isn't this what GPS is for?

GPS does not work accurately when there is no address for the location in rural areas or other stupid things occurred. The first four years after I built my home in a rural area, I had to tell people “one half mile past the stop sign.“ Due to some dubious decisions made by the local road master who was responsible for assigning house numbers, my house number is out of sequence. Yes, it’s ridiculous but that’s the way it is. GPS took people to an empty field 1500 feet from my house because it assume the numbers were in sequence And that 59 must be located between 51 and 61….. except it’s not. Now, web based GPS mostly finds my house correctly these days because the postal service apparently got it mapped properly, but older hardware GPS or those who do not subscribe to updates wind up at the field down the road.

The other use case is reporting accidents and road hazards. I can’t drop a pin on a GPS to tell the police where a dead deer or blown out tractor trailer tire is lying in the middle of the highway. I see the hazard, note the odometer, and drive until I see a landmark, and report it such as “the alien spacecraft is in the highway 2.3 miles west of the Roswell exit”. I’m not sure many people do this, but I make it a point to call in road hazards to the police. Probably once a month or so.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

GPS does not work accurately when there is no address for the location in rural areas or other stupid things occurred. The first four years after I built my home in a rural area, I had to tell people “one half mile past the stop sign.“ Due to some dubious decisions made by the local road master who was responsible for assigning house numbers, my house number is out of sequence. Yes, it’s ridiculous but that’s the way it is. GPS took people to an empty field 1500 feet from my house because it assume the numbers were in sequence And that 59 must be located between 51 and 61….. except it’s not. Now, web based GPS mostly finds my house correctly these days because the postal service apparently got it mapped properly, but older hardware GPS or those who do not subscribe to updates wind up at the field down the road.

The other use case is reporting accidents and road hazards. I can’t drop a pin on a GPS to tell the police where a dead deer or blown out tractor trailer tire is lying in the middle of the highway. I see the hazard, note the odometer, and drive until I see a landmark, and report it such as “the alien spacecraft is in the highway 2.3 miles west of the Roswell exit”. I’m not sure many people do this, but I make it a point to call in road hazards to the police. Probably once a month or so.

Actually you can drop a pin and send it via email or text in both of these examples. You just click share on the dropped pin and it gives you all sorts of options of how to send it to others. Even the police have email and I'm sure they would get the pin. I'm sure you way works fine but GPS with google maps absolutely can be used this way. In the case of your house it may not navigate directly there but in that case I'd drop the pin right on where your driveway connects to the main road and GPS will take your guest right to your driveway.

 

[Zoidz]

Actually you can drop a pin and send it via email or text in both of these examples. You just click share on the dropped pin and it gives you all sorts of options of how to send it to others. Even the police have email and I'm sure they would get the pin. I'm sure you way works fine but GPS with google maps absolutely can be used this way. In the case of your house it may not navigate directly there but in that case I'd drop the pin right on where your driveway connects to the main road and GPS will take your guest right to your driveway.

Right, but those pins only work on phones, not in car nav or hardware GPS. And when you call in a road hazard, the police don’t want to hear “I‘ll send you a pin via email while I’m driving” they just want the location. I can’t even imagine a busy dispatcher dealing with that, and then having to relay the pin to the dispatched police car.

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