Tesla to open 20% of US Superchargers to all EVs by end of 2024, qualifying company for share of billions in federal dollars

[SANZC02]

I doubt the superchargers along 395 are usually busy

It has been awhile since I went up 395 so I can’t say. More talking about Orange, San Diego, and LA counties. Also the chargers on 10 and 15 heading out of the area.

The challenge will be that it seems like their plan is to have 1 or 2 chargers at the locations setup with the magic dock. If that is the case it will be very easy to be blocked from charging if people do not leave those chargers to be utilized last.

I would have preferred that Tesla came up with an adapter we could purchase so we could use at any station. It really would only need to be 5 or 6 feet long for vehicles with charge ports on front or rear corners as you could pull in or back in. Ford would need to be longer as the port is not at the corner of the vehicle.

I don’t know how they will end up implementing their solution, it will be interesting to see, just not thinking based on what I am seeing that it will be super useful.

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[Rivuylkill]

3500 Superchargers across the country is next to nothing.

I mean, yeah everybody wants more, access to all existing chargers, and picking on tesla is cool, but as of Sep 2022, Electrify America had 788 locations / ~3500 chargers. So it's not really next to nothing.

 

[Scoiatael]

I mean, yeah everybody wants more, access to all existing chargers, and picking on tesla is cool, but as of Sep 2022, Electrify America had 788 locations / ~3500 chargers. So it's not really next to nothing.

True, I should have said its next to nothing compared to the number of super chargers Tesla already has.

 

[dfx]

I'd like to see Rivian partner up with BP or XOM etc on this. Given the substantial subsidies, every service station in the US, especially those with convenience stores and restaurants, should put in a couple of CCS chargers

 

[zipzag]

True, I should have said its next to nothing compared to the number of super chargers Tesla already has.

Tesla was never going to give up a major competitive advantage. The question I have is whether they will open up lesser used rural chargers, which is my major problem with using a Rivian off interstate.

The competitive move by Tesla would be to open up the 3500 least useful chargers. That is superchargers in areas that have pretty good CCS charger coverage and availability.

 

[Scoiatael]

Tesla was never going to give up a major competitive advantage. The question I have is whether they will open up lesser used rural chargers, which is my major problem with using a Rivian off interstate.

The competitive move by Tesla would be to open up the 3500 least useful chargers. That is superchargers in areas that have pretty good CCS charger coverage and availability.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they do focus on rural. It looks like they are trying to avoid pissing off Tesla owners by opening up in areas that are heavily used.

 

[Rivan]

It has been awhile since I went up 395 so I can’t say. More talking about Orange, San Diego, and LA counties. Also the chargers on 10 and 15 heading out of the area.

The challenge will be that it seems like their plan is to have 1 or 2 chargers at the locations setup with the magic dock. If that is the case it will be very easy to be blocked from charging if people do not leave those chargers to be utilized last.

I would have preferred that Tesla came up with an adapter we could purchase so we could use at any station. It really would only need to be 5 or 6 feet long for vehicles with charge ports on front or rear corners as you could pull in or back in. Ford would need to be longer as the port is not at the corner of the vehicle.

I don’t know how they will end up implementing their solution, it will be interesting to see, just not thinking based on what I am seeing that it will be super useful.

I Like the option of the adapter, I do not think that would be one any time soon... I would love to use Tesla Chargers, they seem to work all the time ... not like Electrify America, I stopped last time at Carlsbad station and 2 out of 3 were down, one was occupied and someone else was waiting... so unless EA adds 20 Chargers in one spot, it will be always a pain.. and we can only hope Tesla will open their Network..

 

[Cosmacelf]

I knew Tesla was going to drag their feet with this. Honestly surprised the US Government did this agreement. 3500 Superchargers across the country is next to nothing. I'd be surprised if more than one site allows CCS charging by the end of next year.

Hopefully Rivian continues building out the RAN network in areas I need.

It isn’t next to nothing and you can be sure it’ll be a lot more than the number Rivian will install. Gawd, all this whining and hate directed at Tesla is ridiculous. Without Tesla, we wouldn’t have Rivians.

 

[emoore]

It isn’t next to nothing and you can be sure it’ll be a lot more than the number Rivian will install. Gawd, all this whining and hate directed at Tesla is ridiculous. Without Tesla, we wouldn’t have Rivians.

I do agree that Tesla started the EV revolution but I think there would be less Tesla hate if Musk stepped down and it was run as a "normal" company. Also I do think Rivian would still exist if Tesla didn't but it might be more difficult or take longer to get going.

 

[MIG]

Here's a little PR statement from the White House. Upcoming EV projects listed further down in the document:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ational-network-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/

 

[zipzag]

I do agree that Tesla started the EV revolution but I think there would be less Tesla hate if Musk stepped down and it was run as a "normal" company. Also I do think Rivian would still exist if Tesla didn't but it might be more difficult or take longer to get going.

Musk won't even leave twitter after we voted him off the island by a substantial margin.

But there is nothing unusual about Musk when compared to other of the most innovated industrialists.

Nikola Tesla was truely a bizarre man. While he would be better described as a genius inventor, he still makes Musk seem normal.

 

[SANZC02]

Here's a little PR statement from the White House. Upcoming EV projects listed further down in the document:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ational-network-of-electric-vehicle-chargers/

Thanks for sharing, some interesting partnerships in there.

I did find the 97% uptime number interesting, in real world numbers that means a charger can be down 9 days a year.

 

[mabowden]

I would have preferred that Tesla came up with an adapter we could purchase so we could use at any station. It really would only need to be 5 or 6 feet long for vehicles with charge ports on front or rear corners as you could pull in or back in. Ford would need to be longer as the port is not at the corner of the vehicle.

I love this idea. Perhaps, however, it would mess with the gov't funding.

Charge us a silly price for an adapter so we can use any station. It would make them money on both sides (product and ongoing charging). However they seem set on this magic dock idea.

 

[Scoiatael]

Thanks for sharing, some interesting partnerships in there.

I did find the 97% uptime number interesting, in real world numbers that means a charger can be down 9 days a year.

No way EA is going to be able to do that. They have chargers down for months at a time.

 

[zipzag]

Could 97% be station uptime, not charger?

No way EA is going to be able to do that. They have chargers down for months at a time.

change, at least:

https://www.electrive.com/2023/02/07/elke-temme-steps-down-for-personal-reasons/

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