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Here is a good article talking about EV batteries looking at long term viability and recycle options... It is a bit dated from October 2019 but has good information.Random question - we talked about battery degradation, but is there a point will the batteries STOP degrading? Like 50% in 10/15 years?
Sure, but battery packs are expensive, and the labor for the swap would be difficult. At very least, it'd lower the value of however much it costs to do the swap, which I imagine would be significant.Shouldn't it be possible to swap out the li-ion battery for a solid state battery? This might require a software adjustment, but I would think this would be a serious option for the long term.
If your rivian is zero, imagine what a gas truck would beI most certainly won't be waiting for solid state batteries but I do hope Rivian is very generous when it comes time to trade my R1S for their next generation tech. Translation: I'm somewhat concerned that the value of my first gen Rivian will effectively be zero when they go solid state.
I think unless the vehicle is designed for easy battery replacement (Nio), replacing the battery is probably somewhat similar to replacing the engine in an ICE car.That's true RobBot, it wouldn't be cheap to replace a battery.
In theory, yes. In practice, Rivian has explicitly stated they will not be supporting battery upgrades. They could always change their mind but I suspect this is unlikely.electruck suggests that the value of lithium-ion powered Rivian's will collapse on the introduction of a solid state battery. But is that the case?
Shouldn't it be possible to swap out the li-ion battery for a solid state battery? This might require a software adjustment, but I would think this would be a serious option for the long term.
If I'm right, it certainly creates an incentive to look after a vehicle.
ICE vehicles will be on the road for at least another 20 years, their value will not drop immediately because of an improvement in BEV tech. And since not everyone can afford the latest and greatest or to buy a new vehicle of any kind, the second hand market for BEVs should also remain reasonable after the launch of next gen tech. In theory. It's also not clear how aggressively Rivian will pursue trade-ins given they have a second-life strategy for batteries. It will be very interesting to see where the Rivian adventure leads us....If your rivian is zero, imagine what a gas truck would be