R2 Competition - Kia EV3

[dleepnw]

no not really. different size and price class. EV6/Ioniq 5 will be more direct competitor to the R2

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[lefkonj]

Based on size isn't this more of a R3 competitor. The R2 isn't small.

 

[CrazyOne]

Not sure why you would compare a fake price to a real price?

Kia is welcome to reduce the prices. Till then we should use MSRP. If you got a great deal, good, but they generally can't be replicated by others. If Rivian were to continue leasing R1 at $550, I would have rather leased it. They only did that for a short time while clearing out G1.

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

Kia is welcome to reduce the prices. Till then we should use MSRP. If you got a great deal, good, but they generally can't be replicated by others. If Rivian were to continue leasing R1 at $550, I would have rather leased it. They only did that for a short time while clearing out G1.

Ummm, they did reduce the price. Kia corporate takes 7500 off all MSRP. You literally cannot pay MSRP.

 

[CrazyOne]

Ummm, they did reduce the price. Kia corporate takes 7500 off all MSRP. You literally cannot pay MSRP.

That is an incentive. They are temporary

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

That is an incentive. They are temporary

So are the Rivian lease deals.

 

[CrazyOne]

So are the Rivian lease deals.

That's exactly what I said

 

[SDH]

By virtue of the fact that its an EV SUV-type thing, then yes, it is kind of a competitor, but let's get real, it's still a KIA.

Some cars are aspirational. Some are simply a tool to get from A->B.

KIA falls squarely into the latter, in my book.

 

[computertom]

I’m 11 months into owning an Ioniq 5 Limited. For an a to be thing, it’s fantastic. Smooth as could be. Tons of space. Good audio (sound). Actually fun to drive.

We thankfully use CarPlay. As the software is just dismal. It is quintessential shipping your org chart. It is so obvious that different teams own different icons and never talk to each other. The lack of patterns and clear use case consistency make it a giant, giant pita to use.

But it’s 50% more efficient then our old R1T and just a very pleasant here to there car. We have 12k miles on it and they’ve been good.

That said, I’ll never buy another Hyundai. Dealers… Mandatory “service” where they install an update (maybe) and do little else? Not worth an entire morning of my life. And one of the best things about this car is how fast it charges. I can’t imagine getting 130/hr in 2025+ from a new car.

 

[richguess]

I was considering leasing one of these until the R2 comes out. There are some crazy lease deals going on right now for the 2024 Ioniq 5. The 2025 is right around the corner though and will be the first non-Tesla vehicle with a NACS port built in. It’s also built in Georgia, but only gets half of the tax credit, while it lasts. Leases still get the full $7,500 off. Decisions, decisions…

You’re right. I am waiting for my R2. To fill in the time gap I leased a 2024 Equinox LT2 AWD. Found the deal on Leasehackr. Prepaid the lease. Total 24 month price was $4822. That’s $201/month, taxes included. There are several excellent Ionic 5 deals,but they are all the slower RWD models.

 

[Blu Angel]

Have you gotten to see the R2 in person? I’d like to, but the closest showing will be in Detroit next year. I live in Columbus, Ohio and I see Rivians driving around on the regular. We even have a repair center. We need some love in the mid-west.

It might be worth the drive!
3 hr 20 min (198.2 mi) via I-75 N

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