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For me I am going with the R1s over the pickup for these reasons. Gear tunnel is too short to put my skis in it and the bed is too short to put the skis in the bed. If it was a little bigger in width and bed length I would have hands down chosen the pickup for practical reasons. I also have a longboard surfboard for small days and if I am going to rack up a 10 foot board I might as well do it on the SUV. Possibly I might get the 3rd row seats if I can live with the shorter range which I am still on the fence on as I think battery tech may improve and more level 2 chargers pop up . Also I love the looks of the SUV.
Do we know the exact interior dimension of the gear tunnel yet? I was hoping to fit skis in there myself. The R1T width from the website specs is 79.3 inches => 201cm, and I run 180cm long skis. Might be close when you take into account door thickness and where that vehicle width number is measured.

Regarding the bed, using specs from here (https://www.evspecifications.com/en/model/8b4391), the diagonal will be 196.9cm. Once again pretty close tolerances depending on exactly how you measure. I wonder if you have a couple of adult friends how that will all fit in there. Maybe actually better than a giant bed where everything shifts from side to side for each bend in the road?

Given that this is an Adventure Vehicle (TM), I'd hope that Rivian folks have considered skis within the 90th percentile lengths or something. If a test drives become a thing, I'll be bringing my tape measure still ;).
 

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R1S, R1T
1. carrying people & animals vs carrying stuff = 2,1
2. vehicle security (fully metal enclosed vs tonneau covered bed) = 1.5, 1.5
3. length/maneuverability = 3,0
4. utility & versatility = 1,2
5. loadability (ease of loading/unloading) = 1,2
6. urban vs non-urban driving = 3,0
7. cost (basic vs fully loaded costs) = 1.5,1.5
8. availability (R1Ts will be first off the line) = 1,2
9. climate conditioned vs au naturel camping = 1.5,1.5
10. looks (highly subjective but clearly important) = 2, 1
TOTALS

R1S 17.5
R1T 12.5


I might be in the minority here, but having to deal with urban parking and maneuvering is a huge deal for me. If it wasn't it would be much closer. My calculus is that the bed will be empty 95% of the time, but I have to park a much longer vehicle 100% of the time. I have driven around blocks numerous times wistful of a Mini lol
 
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hola29, aAlpine, bajadahl, and others. You raise good points which, if I try to summarize, comes down to: is the R1S or R1T preferable for most of my driving needs?

For most of your driving needs, many of you are selecting the R1S and it makes sense.

How often will we use the extra storage, gear tunnel and pickup bed, of the R1T? It's an individual thing, but I wager not so often, unless you go snowboarding, mountain biking, camping and such for a dozen weekends a year. Then you need a R1T. If you go only once in a while, not so much.

Nowadays, more people live in cities and close-in suburbs than the countryside; for them, maneuvering, parking and carrying more people are more important than carrying more stuff.

Besides storage and bed potential, looks are important in two ways. Some people prefer a pickup truck's looks, others a SUV's. Some care about how they look when driving a pickup or a SUV. Either of these looks is unrelated to use & totally subjective.

In short, I wonder if 55% of sales will be R1Ts, as RJ speculated, once Rivians start rolling off the line. I suspect not. Though pickups are national sales leaders by far, sales include both work trucks and lifestyle trucks. There are lots and lots of choices. Single cab, double cab, crew cab, short bed, long bed, V4, V6, V8 and diesel.

There aren't nearly as many SUV configuration choices as pickup choices yet, as this thread may indicate, many folks are leaning the SUV way.
 
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I am leaning toward the R1T and I'm not a truck guy. I just think it is much more unique than the R1S.
 

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Do we know the exact interior dimension of the gear tunnel yet? I was hoping to fit skis in there myself. The R1T width from the website specs is 79.3 inches => 201cm, and I run 180cm long skis. Might be close when you take into account door thickness and where that vehicle width number is measured.

Regarding the bed, using specs from here (https://www.evspecifications.com/en/model/8b4391), the diagonal will be 196.9cm. Once again pretty close tolerances depending on exactly how you measure. I wonder if you have a couple of adult friends how that will all fit in there. Maybe actually better than a giant bed where everything shifts from side to side for each bend in the road?

Given that this is an Adventure Vehicle (TM), I'd hope that Rivian folks have considered skis within the 90th percentile lengths or something. If a test drives become a thing, I'll be bringing my tape measure still ;).
Please let us know if you get a tape measure for diagonal in the tunnel and the bed. I called but they left a message saying to look on the website and its hard to tell .
 

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Please let us know if you get a tape measure for diagonal in the tunnel and the bed. I called but they left a message saying to look on the website and its hard to tell .
Purely an estimate based on pics and the limited pre-prod specs that have been published but I suspect the tunnel diagonal is going to be somewhere around 68-70 inches. The width of the tunnel appears to be pretty close to the track width (distance between midpoint of tires) which is published at 1710 mm (67.3").
 

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My daily skis are DPS Wailer 112s 188cm and they have wide rocketed tips so there would have to quite a bit clearance beyond the corner to corner measurements.
 
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The gear tunnel is easily one of the most unique features of the R1T, but I don't believe there's another 3 row BEV SUV on the market in N. America, depending on how you evaluate Tesla's Model X. Certainly, if the criteria are 3 rows, BEV, SUV with off-road capabilities, the R1S is/will be unique.

Our discussion is fascinating. How often does a single feature, in light of a vehicle's dozens of standout features, push us toward the R1T or R1S? It's beginning to feel that happens fairly often.
 
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I am leaning toward the R1T and I'm not a truck guy. I just think it is much more unique than the R1S.
...and it appears to have more of the gadgets, gear-tunnel, truck-bed cover, options for kitchen and potentially other stuff...

Somebody else commented that it had more of an aggressive look with the rear contoured flared wheel wells.

I would agree with you on the uniqueness of the R1T! However I saw the white R1S at Mill Valley and it was stunning.
 
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Both the R1S and R1T are unique, just in different ways. "Uniqueness" by its very nature may not be comparable. It may not discriminate well between the R1S and R1T.

In our discussion, two thought threads have stood out. First, for 95% of our daily needs, which vehicle serves us better? This is the pragmatic approach.

Second, among R1S & R1T's many virtues - there are lots - does one really grab us? The gear tunnel, third row seating, the R1T's rear haunches ...the whatever it is. This is the "gotta have it" approach.

Both are valid. Maybe it's more a matter of personality or how we make decisions, and these may change day to day. What I gotta have today may not be what grabs me tomorrow.

RJ thinks it's going to be a 55-45% R1T split. I think it's going to be more even, and possibly run the other way. But ask me tomorrow.
 
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