jclicky
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Rivian Stories dropped their YT video of their conversation with Tony, highlights:
So, for me, I’ll wait to take delivery of a Max Pack until after I see & hear real-world reviews of the performance of the Dual motor off-road.
Call me a Mad Max Max Pack holdout but I’m looking for max range + max performance even if I gotta wait for it (I’m far enough back in the queue that the difference in wait time won’t be significant).
However, if the increase in range for the new Max Build (which is sounding more & more like it will wind up being far less than 180mWh) winds up being negligible between conserve mode on a quad bosch (effectively dual-motor functionally), then I’ll be quite frustrated: that will have meant it would have been more ideal to select a Quad Motor far earlier (yeah yeah yeah I can hear the “I told ya so”s coming).
I just want some clarity, hoping we see some actual production units sent for review/testing soon:
IMO, Rivian should have or should now (perhaps soon?) simplify their lines: Quad Bosch motors for LE only, then transition exclusively to Enduro motors with Quad-Enduro far in the horizon once they have sufficient in-house Enduro Motor supplies for quad-enduros.
- Covers the new options for us Max Pack holdouts, die-hards, crazies, fanatics
- Dual Motor architecture overview with Mason (the engineer from their Instagram post)
- TBD on the “commerce” of buying/upgrading to the high-performance 700hp dual-motor from the 600hp dual-motor; they are scoping this but not confirmed if you can upgrade later via a software unlock
- My read: technically feasible but no word yet whether Rivian will decide to permit this & what the cost will be
- AWD “pretty close” to straight line performance as Quad Motor
- Torque Vectoring confirmed (duh)
- Brake vectoring will be used on the Dual Motor system (also, duh)
- “What could be better? And the only thing you can say is…Quad” (confirming that the quad will feel / function better, seamless performance - but you “can’t tell” unless you drive both)
- No plans currently for lockers - boo!
- Lots of friendly softball questions & spin, “glad the Max Pack is still around,” or “Max Pack will be more capable than other options for 99% of customers”
- No hate here, I get it, they have a lot of haterade out there & need a friendly outlet, plus I don’t begrudge Rivian Stories for getting us info, but have to be candid.
- Configurator should show these options in “early Q1 2023”
- Triple motor - considered? Mason: “Sure, considered, available if we choose to do that…”
- R1S models will be added to the online R1 shop
So, for me, I’ll wait to take delivery of a Max Pack until after I see & hear real-world reviews of the performance of the Dual motor off-road.
Call me a Mad Max Max Pack holdout but I’m looking for max range + max performance even if I gotta wait for it (I’m far enough back in the queue that the difference in wait time won’t be significant).
However, if the increase in range for the new Max Build (which is sounding more & more like it will wind up being far less than 180mWh) winds up being negligible between conserve mode on a quad bosch (effectively dual-motor functionally), then I’ll be quite frustrated: that will have meant it would have been more ideal to select a Quad Motor far earlier (yeah yeah yeah I can hear the “I told ya so”s coming).
I just want some clarity, hoping we see some actual production units sent for review/testing soon:
IMO, Rivian should have or should now (perhaps soon?) simplify their lines: Quad Bosch motors for LE only, then transition exclusively to Enduro motors with Quad-Enduro far in the horizon once they have sufficient in-house Enduro Motor supplies for quad-enduros.
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