EV Noob here = thoughts on R2 configs?

[Matchbox]

Replaced my 2014 Tacoma (and 2000 4Runner before that) with R1T-2G. Large battery and dual. Plenty of power for supply hauling and towing boats. More towing than Tacoma. Plenty of hp. Trying to think why I would need a tri or quad. For my purposes, nothing comes up. Dual is quick, fast and powerful enough.

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[usulio]

The R2 will be my first EV. I'm looking for ideas and thoughts on which config to choose.

I am replacing a 5th gen 4Runner. It's a slow horse, but a great vehicle otherwise. Not very efficient, but roomy and has never let me down.
I still do projects around the house, so the R2 will see bags of mulch, plants, and lumber from time to time. (The roll down rear window is a must)
My second vehicle is a fun car - fast convertible.
My wife's car is an Acura SUV.
We do occasionally take road trips.
Both retired.

The R2 appears to be the EV version of the 4Runner, but a bit smaller - and MUCH faster. I think it will be perfect for me. As for config, I have never been a base model sort of guy, so I am leaning toward the Dual motor and large battery. The tri-motor sounds like killer fun, but I am looking for the sweetspot.

Apologies if this has already been beaten to death, but I searched and did not see a discussion on it specific to the R2.

Sell all three ICE vehicles and buy an R1S. Done, done, and done.

Seriously though, nobody knows details on R2 yet, and you haven't given us much to go on, so there's nothing to say ... but yes, talking about R2 is fun while we wait...

 

[R2D2TOO]

Sell all three ICE vehicles and buy an R1S. Done, done, and done.

Seriously though, nobody knows details on R2 yet, and you haven't given us much to go on, so there's nothing to say ... but yes, talking about R2 is fun while we wait...

In reality, Mrs and I had a reservation for an R1S. Our thinking was we could sell both SUVs. After a few instances where we needed both, we realized we weren’t ready for that yet. Hence the R2 is just for me.

Not ready to get rid of my fun car any time soon.

 

[DayTripping]

I'm really interested in the configs as well. Coming from a Tesla, I'm unused to picking a battery size. In general, I don't want to be humping around a big heavy battery when most of my driving is local, but I do road-trip pretty frequently. I've always said that charger availability, charging speed (max rate, curve) and efficiency are more important than range, so I'll be very interested in those characteristics as well. I've read that the max charge rate for the R1S is 220kW, which is lower than my Tesla at 250kW. But the curve is really king.

The Rivian's charging curves for the R1's are definitely lacking compared to Tesla. I don't think they do thermal management as well. It is one of the reason I don't have any real desire to road trip in my truck despite how much I like it.

If I can do it on one charge and then charge overnight, I am fine. A 1k+ mile road trip and I'll take one of my Teslas. The faster charging curve, and better efficiency, matter more to me on a longer trip so my Tesla will be my first choice. It also cuts my charging costs almost in half and my travel time is reduced due to spending less time at chargers. I have a kid and spending less time at a charger makes the trip much smoother.

While I hope the R2 will be better with its charging curve, I wouldn't bet on it. I also hope Rivian does a better job with wind noise. I'll be curious to see what R2 is like. That would be one thing that would keep my R2 reservation from being converted into an order.

I have high hopes for the R2 but my R1T ownership has reduced my expectations of what I realistically think they will achieve. It has also increased my concern about increasing the load on already overwhelmed service centers. I am not really sure they can scale up in time to handle the additional demand. Everyone will suffer if they can't.

 

[AirplaneDr]

****DISCLAIMER****
I know nothing, this is all speculation.
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Per ABRP (owned by Rivian) there will be 5 levels of R2:

RWD Std Battery
AWD (dual) Std Battery
RWD Large Battery
AWD (dual) Large Battery
AWD (tri) Large Battery

If the RWD standard battery pricing holds at $45,000 I expect about $5000 for each step up (drive or battery) in level. That puts the AWD tri at $60,000 but I would also expect an expanded feature set with the higher end levels so I would anticipate the Tri to be around $65,000.

The white preproduction R2 that has traveled everywhere is most likely a full featured representative of the Tri. I am expecting a larger reduction in features in the base model compared to R1. The glass roof, wood interior accents, and seat material are all likely to be absent from the $45,000 level.

As with R1 expect non silver paint options to be $1500+ along with very expensive black paint on the wheels. So, I expect it will be possible to get into the low $70,000 range for a Tri if you check every box on the option list.

Finally, I think the standard battery will be low 70s KWh and the large to be in the low 90s.

 

[savethemanual]

I'm so looking forward to the R2 online configurator so I can waste a bunch of time playing with it

 

[AlphaSnowbordergirl]

****DISCLAIMER****
I know nothing, this is all speculation.
********************

Per ABRP (owned by Rivian) there will be 5 levels of R2:

RWD Std Battery
AWD (dual) Std Battery
RWD Large Battery
AWD (dual) Large Battery
AWD (tri) Large Battery

If the RWD standard battery pricing holds at $45,000 I expect about $5000 for each step up (drive or battery) in level. That puts the AWD tri at $60,000 but I would also expect an expanded feature set with the higher end levels so I would anticipate the Tri to be around $65,000.

The white preproduction R2 that has traveled everywhere is most likely a full featured representative of the Tri. I am expecting a larger reduction in features in the base model compared to R1. The glass roof, wood interior accents, and seat material are all likely to be absent from the $45,000 level.

As with R1 expect non silver paint options to be $1500+ along with very expensive black paint on the wheels. So, I expect it will be possible to get into the low $70,000 range for a Tri if you check every box on the option list.

Finally, I think the standard battery will be low 70s KWh and the large to be in the low 90s.

They just released some information on the battery today. It's looking like the battery may be around 83KWh. With the battery configuration using chatgpt for number crunching that's about 310 miles which I believe would be the large battery. Assuming its 111Wh per cell.

 

[DayTripping]

Its going to have to be pretty efficient to get that kind of range out of that size pack. I am not buying it. That would be about 3.73 mpk. That would make it about as efficient as a Model Y long range which I don't believe for a minute. Then again, who knows how they'll game the EPA ratings.

 

[AlphaSnowbordergirl]

Its going to have to be pretty efficient to get that kind of range out of that size pack. I am not buying it. That would be about 3.73 mpk. That would make it about as efficient as a Model Y long range which I don't believe for a minute. Then again, who knows how they'll game the EPA ratings.

You're right. I completely forgot to compensate for the efficiency and used only the average. That certainly would change things and would likely be the standard pack then.

 

[DanDibs58]

Its going to have to be pretty efficient to get that kind of range out of that size pack. I am not buying it. That would be about 3.73 mpk. That would make it about as efficient as a Model Y long range which I don't believe for a minute. Then again, who knows how they'll game the EPA ratings.

How does Rivian typically do vs the EPA rating?

 

[DayTripping]

They sometimes mix the drive modes that they run them in. So it might be a mix of all purpose (AP) and conserve mode. AP would be AWD all the time and conserve can vary a bit based on what generation. For Gen 1, it is just FWD (no matter what), for Gen 2, it is AWD at launch, and then into FWD fairly quickly. Each drive model can have a significant impact on the efficiency.

 

[HaveBlue]

Ah, ok. Thanks. I'm still thinking Dual and the largest battery pack available is the way to go for me.

This is good advice. Coming from ICE, you should focus on the biggest battery you can mange. There will be a rear drive only but hard to say when. If you like to explore then dual motor is what you want. I've had numerous 4Runners and a GX. I've also had hands on the R2 up close and it's super roomy.

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