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The $7500 federal EV tax credit is expiring on 9/30/25. Most manufacturers and dealers have been pushing potential buyers to purchase and take delivery by 9/30/25.

Two days ago the IRS released new guidance that states the following for the $7500 federal tax credit - https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/faqs-f...-known-as-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-act-obbb

"2. For purposes of the expiring clean vehicle credits under sections 25E, 30D, and 45W, what does “acquired” mean?
For purposes of sections 25E, 30D, and 45W, a vehicle is “acquired” as of the date a written binding contract is entered into and a payment has been made. A payment includes a nominal downpayment or a vehicle trade-in.

3. What effect does “acquisition” of a vehicle have on a taxpayer’s ability to claim a credit under sections 25E, 30D, and 45W?
Acquiring a vehicle prior to the termination date is an initial step, but acquisition alone does not immediately entitle a taxpayer to a credit. Sections 25E(a), 30D(a), and 45W(a) require the vehicle be “placed in service” to claim the respective credit (see IRS.gov for additional requirements). If a taxpayer acquires a vehicle by having a written binding contract in place and a payment made on or before September 30, 2025, then the taxpayer will be entitled to claim the credit when they place the vehicle in service (namely, when they take possession of the vehicle), even if the vehicle is placed in service after September 30, 2025. Taxpayers should receive a time of sale report from the dealer at the time they take possession or within three days of taking possession of the vehicle."

Could Rivian roll out binding contracts again, similar to the August 16th 2022 paperwork sent out to R1 reservation holders? Could they use this binding contract for existing (and even new) R2 reservation holders?

Rivian - make it happen


(Commentary - I have low expectations for this administration (via the IRS) in honoring this language when all is said and done. Though I could be proven wrong.)
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I doubt it. People are still fighting for the credit from the first time they did this. A $100 non-refundable deposit really didn't meet the terms the IRS put out if you dig into the details. Went through for most, but some are fighting with very little to back their position in the details of the guidance they released at the time.

I doubt they're willing to encourage it again when deliveries are at least 6 months away from starting (I bet longer). You can't even configure an R2 yet. I also think they realize it wouldn't be wise to thumb their nose at this administration by encouraging folks to claim the credit without a true binding contract where a material non-refundable deposit is actually at risk. Rivian needs to survive the next few years - becoming a target of this administration is a possible death sentence (note the administration has allowed the Biden doe loan proceeds for the ga factory to go through unchallenged thus far).
 
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A $100 non-refundable deposit really didn't meet the terms the IRS put out if you dig into the details.
It was bit bit more complex than that. A binding contract is what was involved aside from the non-refundable deposit. As long as the paperwork was in order, it wasn’t a problem.
 

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It was bit bit more complex than that. A binding contract is what was involved aside from the non-refundable deposit. As long as the paperwork was in order, it wasn’t a problem.
I'm well aware of the complexities and I have always argued what Rivian offered did not meet the guidance posted by the IRS. Not going to rehash it all, but some folks have found that out the hard way.
 

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Good attempt but this is trying to game the system. The vehicles are nine months away from even being available, no set price and no configuration so you cannot have a binding contract for an unknown vehicle specification and price.
 

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I honestly believe that if Rivian offered something like this for the R2; we would be all in.
 

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When Rivian did it for the R1 people already had a configuration and a deposit made. Rivian hasn’t even announced specs and pricing this time around. I don’t think this is realistic and you’re bound to make waves with the IRS over this.
 

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IRS can’t get its shit together on pre-IRA purchase agreement and ‘22 amendments AND their own ‘23 guidance There is absolutely no reason to place any faith in this. Game it at your own expense.

Plus, IRS is down about 25,000 in their head count. Anyone seeking help or resolution from the IRS will need more than luck.
 
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I would love to see Rivian try to make this happen and help me like they did with the Gen 1 tax credit.
 

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C'mon RJ. Help me get into that R2!
 

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Don't think people actually buying in cash or financing would be able to get it though. It is unfortunately, but the battery factory in Arizona will not be done in time for the beginning of the R2 production so it will be sourced from outside the country starting out, meaning they won't get the credit. I know most people lease EVs, but I have no plans on selling mine for 8-10 years like my previous cars.
 

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I know most people lease EVs
Because that's currently the only way to get the full $7500 tax credit, not necessarily because people like leasing. Although there are some who worry about getting stuck with "old" technology that they can't sell in a few years, and see leasing as a way to protect against that.

In order to get the $7500 credit you can just lease then immediately buy out the lease (whether you're paying cash or getting a loan to buy it out doesn't matter). That allows you to keep most of the $7500 credit without having to keep the lease.

Given the large discount, I don't see why you *wouldn't* lease then buy it out immediately instead of just buy it. But alas that all goes away soon.
 

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If I was set on an R2 and a lease contract with VIN was available...... I would take my chances. Worst case all that is lost is the tax credit that will be gone next year anyway.
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