2025.46 Update Teased: Customizable Driver Display for Gen 1 and Gen 2

[endress14]

And a response that misses the boat...

Can you explain how departure charging will help? Genuinely curious.

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[Dark-Fx]

Can you explain how departure charging will help? Genuinely curious.

Battery is the warmest it will be. Lots of waste heat goes into the battery during charging. You get better range with a warm battery.

It'd be extra awesome if Rivian could intentionally heat up even higher for long road trips.

 

[beatle]

I used scheduled departure charging on my Model S to help warm the battery. This was not so much for range, but to help minimize how much regen was reduced during cooler months. The Model S had reduced regen if the battery was as cool as 67F, and it had no regen assist to blend friction brakes in like Rivian does. That meant on cold mornings you'd have varying levels of regen which affected how the car drove.

Anyway, this doesn't matter much for Rivian unless you're trying to eek out every last mile. It could help you save a few bucks on energy consumption, but it'd be pretty trivial. I thought I'd miss scheduled charging, but with regen assist the truck always slows down the same no matter how cold the battery is. It's one of the most underrated features IMO.

 

[Eric9610]

Besides the perfect battery temp, the importance is if you have varying times of departure. Instead of you figuring the start and stop time you just set when you plan to leave, and the car calculates how long it will take to charge for the set departure time.

BTW the reason I mention it every time is because its very easy to program but instead, we get useless screen updates so I can have a 5th map displayed... Priority is in the wrong place. I believe now after 3 years of the cars being out, they should have figured it out. Every EV has this function except Rivian.

At least I am not asking for Carplay....

 

[endress14]

Besides the perfect battery temp, the importance is if you have varying times of departure. Instead of you figuring the start and stop time you just set when you plan to leave, and the car calculates how long it will take to charge for the set departure time.

BTW the reason I mention it every time is because its very easy to program but instead, we get useless screen updates so I can have a 5th map displayed... Priority is in the wrong place. I believe now after 3 years of the cars being out, they should have figured it out. Every EV has this function except Rivian.

At least I am not asking for Carplay....

Ok thanks. Sounds like mostly a temp issue, otherwise just charging up and letting sit at whatever % you deem necessary until ready to go is basically equivalent. Good to know.

 

[ThumprMN]

Besides the perfect battery temp, the importance is if you have varying times of departure. Instead of you figuring the start and stop time you just set when you plan to leave, and the car calculates how long it will take to charge for the set departure time.

BTW the reason I mention it every time is because its very easy to program but instead, we get useless screen updates so I can have a 5th map displayed... Priority is in the wrong place. I believe now after 3 years of the cars being out, they should have figured it out. Every EV has this function except Rivian.

At least I am not asking for Carplay....

You…. Said…. CAR PLAY!!!!

 

[Chewy734]

Was I the only one who wanted a large analog clock with random adventures of Gary on the driver’s screen?

Similar to the Snoopy watch face on my Apple Watch, but with Gary.

 

[tbinmd]

hope release notes get posted soon.

 

[LeftMySoulinNM]

The importance of that is debatable. Just charge to 80% everyday. Charge to 90 or 100% when needed. The batteries will hold up fine. Some people think L2 departure charging warms the battery for better range, but it really doesn't from my experience in real Winter. Scheduled climate, available in the Rivian phone app, actually will pre-heat the battery from wall power if you want absolute best possible range, but that's probably only completely necessary if you are driving 90-100% of the battery in a day.

This IS an issue. Suppose I want to leave at 0700 and want 95 or 100% charge for a long trip. Current state is charging begins until completion at 10pm for me as that’s the off peak rate beginning. Then it sits most of the night at a high SOC which isn’t great for the battery.

 

[1stPlace]

This IS an issue. Suppose I want to leave at 0700 and want 95 or 100% charge for a long trip. Current state is charging begins until completion at 10pm for me as that’s the off peak rate beginning. Then it sits most of the night at a high SOC which isn’t great for the battery.

If I'm hearing you correctly, 10pm start means it ends maybe a few hours before 7am if you don't need a deep charge. This is a non-issue, 100% for a few hours (especially in Winter) less than weekly is not a concern. But schedule climate in the Rivian app if you want the *optimal* temperature battery for longest range, which departure-based charging itself does not actually provide.

What if the power went out at 1am when you were already asleep, and your car didn't get any charging started? I've had 2 or 3 occasions like this. One may have been a Rivian software glitch. Wouldn't it be better if your car was already charged, and the phone showed you that it started charging fine at 10pm?

I agree, if it's just a choice, like Apple CarPlay, there is reasonable argument for it to be added. But it doesn't look like a priority, and I don't fault Rivian for that choice.

 

[IPTV65]

That’s awesome. I’ve not been excited for an update for a long while, but I’m excited for that driver display. The car view was so pointless.

Exactly this! The inaccurate display of “traffic and peds” was the biggest waste of screen real estate. I’m not blind. I can see all that stuff.

 

[DuoRivian]

This IS an issue. Suppose I want to leave at 0700 and want 95 or 100% charge for a long trip. Current state is charging begins until completion at 10pm for me as that’s the off peak rate beginning. Then it sits most of the night at a high SOC which isn’t great for the battery.

It doesn’t do much harm if any to the battery either for a few hours.

 

[LeftMySoulinNM]

If I'm hearing you correctly, 10pm start means it ends maybe a few hours before 7am if you don't need a deep charge. This is a non-issue, 100% for a few hours (especially in Winter) less than weekly is not a concern. But schedule climate in the Rivian app if you want the *optimal* temperature battery for longest range, which departure-based charging itself does not actually provide.

What if the power went out at 1am when you were already asleep, and your car didn't get any charging started? I've had 2 or 3 occasions like this. One may have been a Rivian software glitch. Wouldn't it be better if your car was already charged, and the phone showed you that it started charging fine at 10pm?

I agree, if it's just a choice, like Apple CarPlay, there is reasonable argument for it to be added. But it doesn't look like a priority, and I don't fault Rivian for that choice.

Yah I guess I was just thinking of how sometimes I’m already at 80% SOC and it doesn’t take all that long to complete charging then just sits there all night. I should probably stop worrying about it being full for half a day or whatever in preparation for a trip.

 

[Joules Burn]

Still no option for putting other features on the driver screen. Like odometer, trip gauge (like other cars have had for a generation) and elevation because it helps establishing usage. Must be beyond their programing ability.

 

[sub]

And still no departure charging. Do they not get how important this is for an EV???

I get why you want this, but I also get why Rivian doesn't want to create it. Rivian needs EV ownership to look as simple as possible.

Even though using a scheduled charging completion feature would be optional, the mere existence of it means that Rivian has to explain what it does and why you might want to use it and when an EV skeptic reads that it will make EV ownership seem difficult and confusing.

To 90% of the population, anything related to optimizing battery life or performance is scary. Even the prospect of connecting an electrical cord once a week instead of connecting a gas hose once a week is overwhelming.

Rivian has to carefully balance the desires of power users with the need to convince non-EV owners that owning an EV doesn't require spending as much time thinking about EV ownership as the people on this forum do. If they don't add enough, they will have a hard time selling to us. But if the add too much they will have a hard time selling to anyone else.

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