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Why couldn’t your Rivian guide explain to you exactly why the wheels and tires wouldn’t fit so you’re not playing guessing games and having to ask strangers on this message board? A rhetorical question.
Because some guides, like some people, are not car nuts. They're just regular people working a customer service generalist job. If they hear from another that wheels don't fit, they repeat it.
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The front brake caliper is different between Gen1 and Gen2. At least for a dual motor. Which is why Thuren doesn't sell their wheels for Gen2. That being said, that hasn't been a problem for any other wheel that I have heard of, and I have my Gen1 OEM wheel on my Gen2 Dual Motor right now.
I meant between Rivian factory wheels. But do you know what exactly is different? Couldn't be size. I can't imagine Dual getting a bigger caliper than Quad. Just curious.
 

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I meant between Rivian factory wheels. But do you know what exactly is different? Couldn't be size. I can't imagine Dual getting a bigger caliper than Quad. Just curious.
The caliper is ever so slightly different. A group of us was going to try and investigate it further when we were trying to buy some discounted wheels from Thuren, but we never ended up connecting the wheel with a couple of Gen2 vehicles.
 

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...2023 R1T Quad [--->] 2026 R1S dual...set of 2023 Rivian OEM 20" wheels...will NOT [fit] on the 2026 R1S???...
Interesting.

Rivian itself may have (accidentally?) perpetuated the idea(/fact/myth?) that certain Gen 1 and Gen 2 wheel-sets are not 100% interchangeable. I and others commented previously on compatibility (or lack thereof), for example here. However, there may indeed be important wheel-related differences between the Dual and non-Dual models; I don't know. (This is where factual reports by owners of the cars in question are particularly valuable.)

AFAIK, there were two 20-inch wheel designs used in Gen 1 vehicles--the All-Terrain "Classic" and the All-Terrain "Bright"/"Dark" wheels. You did not say which ones your Quad came with, but I assume that all Rivian 20-inch wheels have the same key dimensions, including offset. Is that correct?

Rivian R1T R1S BUMMER - Rivian OEM wheel from my 2023 Generation 1 R1T do not fit on 2026 Generation 2 R1S? Rivian Gen 1 Wheels & Tires

Gen 1 Wheels & Tires

Generation 2 wheel-set options varied somewhat from Gen 1.

Rivian R1T R1S BUMMER - Rivian OEM wheel from my 2023 Generation 1 R1T do not fit on 2026 Generation 2 R1S? Rivian Gen 2 Wheels & Tires

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You are getting the Dual with Performance Upgrade, correct? So it seems to me that the two optional 2026 20-inch wheel-sets (All-Terrain "Classic" and All-Terrain "Dark") should be identical to what fit on your Gen 1 Quad. But I am not the expert. (BTW, I assume that the snow tires on your Gen 1 wheels are correctly sized and properly safe for use on Rivian vehicles, right? So tires should not be the problem.)

An alleged change in front brake calipers (e.g., on the 2025 Dual models) might indeed be a legitimate reason for caution,...or not. (I believe Rivian originally used the big, strong front Brembo brakes for Gen 1 R1 vehicles.) Is the supposed brake caliper change only on the more-economical Dual Standard, or was it for all Dual models? If there has been a brake caliper change, that might suggest the need to pay attention to wheel offset. But since I am unaware of a generational change in Rivian wheel dimensions, I am at a loss to explain an alleged wheel-set incompatibility (unless one ventures into aftermarket wheel/tire products).

The whole issue might simply be due to Rivian Gear Page website information not yet being fully comprehensive and complete in covering all possible iterations for all the model-years and wheel-tire sizes, (For [much] more about Rivian wheel/tire size, see this.) Or perhaps confusion by tire industry companies between the Dual Standard and other Dual model variations; I don't know.

For perceived liability reasons (whether reasonable or not) Rivian and its wheel/tire providers are likely to conservatively promote only OEM accessory/parts formats without any changes. As we know, car companies tend to shy away from customization, no matter how small, unless they themselves have fully researched it, deemed it legally safe, and indeed offered it themselves.

Conclusion: To be absolutely safe, where there is smoke there may be fire; or not. Tire store companies like to sell wheels/tires. So if they are instead saying that certain wheel-tire sets are not compatible, best to listen until you definitely confirm otherwise. Become familiar with Rivian wheel/tire dimensions and offset data. And if in doubt, of course stick with recommended OEM wheel-sets for the Rivian model (i.e., 2026 Dual R1S) in question. But by all means also note the advice of experienced Rivian drivers (in this Forum) who have driven both Gen 1 and Gen 2 vehicles.

Please let us know how this turns out.
 
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I have my 20” AT‘s (OME 20” AT Dark w/ Perrelli Scorpions) as a winter set from my 2023 R1S (traded in this past summer for a Gen 2 2026 R1S Quad w/ 22” super sports) that are going on my Gen 2 tomorrow at the Rivian Service Center in MA.

I did have a Rivian Service guide initially tell me this past summer when I got my Gen 2 that he didn’t think they would fit but to check with the service center. I did and the service center said they’re 100% compatible. .
 

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I have my 20” AT‘s (OME 20” AT Dark w/ Perrelli Scorpions) as a winter set from my 2023 R1S (traded in this past summer for a Gen 2 2026 R1S Quad w/ 22” super sports) that are going on my Gen 2 tomorrow at the Rivian Service Center in MA.

I did have a Rivian Service guide initially tell me this past summer when I got my Gen 2 that he didn’t think they would fit but to check with the service center. I did and the service center said they’re 100% compatible. .
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Interesting.

Rivian itself may have (accidentally?) perpetuated the idea(/fact/myth?) that certain Gen 1 and Gen 2 wheel-sets are not 100% interchangeable. I and others commented previously on compatibility (or lack thereof), for example here. However, there may indeed be important wheel-related differences between the Dual and non-Dual models; I don't know. (This is where factual reports by owners of the cars in question are particularly valuable.)

AFAIK, there were two 20-inch wheel designs used in Gen 1 vehicles--the All-Terrain "Classic" and the All-Terrain "Bright"/"Dark" wheels. You did not say which ones your Quad came with, but I assume that all Rivian 20-inch wheels have the same key dimensions, including offset. Is that correct?

Rivian Gen 1 Wheels & Tires.webp

Gen 1 Wheels & Tires

Generation 2 wheel-set options varied somewhat from Gen 1.

Rivian Gen 2 Wheels & Tires.webp

Gen 2 Wheels & Tires (not including 2026 Quad Max info)​

You are getting the Dual with Performance Upgrade, correct? So it seems to me that the two optional 2026 20-inch wheel-sets (All-Terrain "Classic" and All-Terrain "Dark") should be identical to what fit on your Gen 1 Quad. But I am not the expert. (BTW, I assume that the snow tires on your Gen 1 wheels are correctly sized and properly safe for use on Rivian vehicles, right? So tires should not be the problem.)

An alleged change in front brake calipers (e.g., on the 2025 Dual models) might indeed be a legitimate reason for caution,...or not. (I believe Rivian originally used the big, strong front Brembo brakes for Gen 1 R1 vehicles.) Is the supposed brake caliper change only on the more-economical Dual Standard, or was it for all Dual models? If there has been a brake caliper change, that might suggest the need to pay attention to wheel offset. But since I am unaware of a generational change in Rivian wheel dimensions, I am at a loss to explain an alleged wheel-set incompatibility (unless one ventures into aftermarket wheel/tire products).

The whole issue might simply be due to Rivian Gear Page website information not yet being fully comprehensive and complete in covering all possible iterations for all the model-years and wheel-tire sizes, (For [much] more about Rivian wheel/tire size, see this.) Or perhaps confusion by tire industry companies between the Dual Standard and other Dual model variations; I don't know.

For perceived liability reasons (whether reasonable or not) Rivian and its wheel/tire providers are likely to conservatively promote only OEM accessory/parts formats without any changes. As we know, car companies tend to shy away from customization, no matter how small, unless they themselves have fully researched it, deemed it legally safe, and indeed offered it themselves.

Conclusion: To be absolutely safe, where there is smoke there may be fire; or not. Tire store companies like to sell wheels/tires. So if they are instead saying that certain wheel-tire sets are not compatible, best to listen until you definitely confirm otherwise. Become familiar with Rivian wheel/tire dimensions and offset data. And if in doubt, of course stick with recommended OEM wheel-sets for the Rivian model (i.e., 2026 Dual R1S) in question. But by all means also note the advice of experienced Rivian drivers (in this Forum) who have driven both Gen 1 and Gen 2 vehicles.

Please let us know how this turns out.
Wow thank you so much for your so comprehensive and thoughtful observations. My Gen 1 OEM Wheels are the top left in your picture above. And my 2026 Dual Performance comes with the bottom right 22" aero Wheels in the picture of Gen 2 Wheels.
My Nokian snow tires are 275/65R20.

I've suggested to Rivian that they should improve clarity of their disclosures, especially since they hope to make us all serial Rivian owners.

You're right, everbody cover theirs a** in such matters. In completely trust my 20+ years relationship with my "tires guys", they have never pressured me to buy their non-OEM Wheels as they know I prefer OEM Wheels.

Am going to tread carefully and will for sure report back to this forum. Thanks again
 

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The Guide program should have been ended a while ago. At this point they generally cause more stress and problems by spreading misinformation. It’s not necessarily their fault, but the program itself has been problematic all along…
 
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that may well be, but probably coincidentally i got the same guide this time as when i bought my first Rivian. She was / is very good and helpful.
 

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Probably because they have laid off any well paid/knowledgeable ones and their internal notes say something like "this wheel is for 2022-2024 MY" and then the same wheel in another spot says "2025-2026 MY."
My Gen2 doesn't have pre-2025 wheel options in the swap menu. Gen1 does have the 2022-2024 and 2025 wheel selection.

I'll also mention that I had some massive rubbing with the 34" tires on my gen2 R1S when going over a threshold with the front suspension almost empty that I'm not sure I got with the 33"s that are stock.
 

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My Gen2 doesn't have pre-2025 wheel options in the swap menu. Gen1 does have the 2022-2024 and 2025 wheel selection.

I'll also mention that I had some massive rubbing with the 34" tires on my gen2 R1S when going over a threshold with the front suspension almost empty that I'm not sure I got with the 33"s that are stock.
Interesting, i was wondering what options the 2026 Rivian tire-swapping section of the settings screen provide? Thanks.

To be fair: i bought on eBay a set new MB AMG wheels for my wife's 2024 MB GLE 450e, and found out that they did not fit GLE models post 2022! Another bummer!
 
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Because some guides, like some people, are not car nuts. They're just regular people working a customer service generalist job. If they hear from another that wheels don't fit, they repeat it.
I think you're right, but I still prefer to 95% of traditional car sales people who assume every person walking in is as dumb and unprepared as they are! My heart goes out to Rivian employees who've now passed the cool aid phase of excitement and "have an adventurous day" company culture to same old Detroit BS of lay+offs, restructuring and being asked to say wrong things to customers. I can sense the change, sadly.
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