Motortrend reviews new 2025 R1T Quad Max. $111,700 est price -- "So, It’s Fast. But There’s Way More Here."

[jemkewl]

The overall tire diameter is?

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[R1Tom]

Not having driven one - my only criticism of the gen2 quad is that they changed the accent color to blue. Should have kept it yellow to continue to signal yellow as the quad color. Make the Tri the blue one.

I think the positioning is that the G2 TM is ballpark parallel to G1 QM and G2 QM is new halo vehicle.

 

[beaker]

I think the positioning is that the G2 TM is ballpark parallel to G1 QM and G2 QM is new halo vehicle.

That's what they said but that just does not make any sense to me from a long term brand building perspective.

 

[R1Tom]

That's what they said but that just does not make any sense to me from a long term brand building perspective.

I agree...I would have preferred keeping all accents yellow and then a simple DM, TM, QM badge or something along those lines...

 

[CharonPDX]

Not trading up. You can have my Forest Edge interior when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. ?

Same.

"Slate+walnut" would be my pick of the current options, but I love my Forest Edge. And they won't let you configure Slate+walnut with any exterior color that has actual… color.

 

[DayTripping]

Not much to get excited about here over my G1, especially considering how much more expensive this one is. I don't think we should hold our breath for significant further improvements in the R1 platform. I know everyone's going to be disappointed by that but it just doesn't make sense for Rivian to put their limited and dwindling resources into a niche product that will never get them to profitability. Have a look at how little Tesla has invested into the S and X over the years compared to the 3 and Y if you want a peak at the future. This is probably as good as it's going to get from Rivian for a very long time.

I think you are right on point. At least Tesla went out with the Plaid. I don't think this is as much of a "landmark/halo", cherry on the top, as the Plaid was for Tesla. The extra power is just going to upset the chassis balance even more on the R1S as they likely didn't dial it in as well either.

I still don't see the point of the tri. There is almost no price differential. What is the point of supporting another SKU? Just more issues down the road to stock parts. Drop the quad a grand or two and push everyone who doesn't want a DM or PDM to the quad.

They should have kept the yellow for the quads. The blue was a stupid idea.

They also should have improved the high speed charging while at it.

 

[ElGuano]

The overall tire diameter is?

It has the 22" super sport wheels:
275/50/R22 (in the front).

I think the rears are 305/45/R22s?

 

[jemkewl]

It has the 22" super sport wheels:
275/50/R22 (in the front).

I think the rears are 305/45/R22s?

Thanks. Makes sense for the range differences between g1 and g2 in my mind. Would love to see range and acceleration on 33" tires on 20" wheels for this quad max.

 

[strykerwsu]

$111k for poor ride quality? Nah...

Unless they really screwed up the Gen2’s. My Gen 1 R1T is loaded all the time and is by far the best truck ride I’ve ever had and my EV hater buddies even agree. Now the R1S can definitely be nitpicked for the ride.

Now I see and remember they have summer type rubber on 22’s. Yes the 22’s definitely don’t ride as nice as 21’s or 20’s. I have all 3 sets for both of ours.

 

[bfilippo]

Unless they really screwed up the Gen2’s. My Gen 1 R1T is loaded all the time and is by far the best truck ride I’ve ever had and my EV hater buddies even agree. Now the R1S can definitely be nitpicked for the ride.

Now I see and remember they have summer type rubber on 22’s. Yes the 22’s definitely don’t ride as nice as 21’s or 20’s. I have all 3 sets for both of ours.

I have no idea what they’re talking about, I have a Gen2 Dual and the ride is unbelievable for a truck. I have towed both my boats and loaded up the bed with little impact on drive quality. I do keep it in Soft ride mode, not sure why they had firm on and then complained about it…

 

[DayTripping]

I have no idea what they’re talking about, I have a Gen2 Dual and the ride is unbelievable for a truck. I have towed both my boats and loaded up the bed with little impact on drive quality. I do keep it in Soft ride mode, not sure why they had firm on and then complained about it…

Given the power, the front-to-rear weight transfer could upset the chassis balance more, even with the long wheelbase. This was something I hated about the Gen1 quad motor R1S. Now throw more power at it, even on the T, and more likely to upset the chassis.

 

[tmmcgee]

To me, this just reinforces what an absolute steal the early adopters got on the OG quads. I really believe they will be sought after for those in the know.. Especially for us who locked down the Forest Edge interior. Large battery size, all of the options, and a sticker close to $40k cheaper. I’ll stick with what I have.

 

[Hillbilly]

To me, this just reinforces what an absolute steal the early adopters got on the OG quads. I really believe they will be sought after for those in the know.. Especially for us who locked down the Forest Edge interior. Large battery size, all of the options, and a sticker close to $40k cheaper. I’ll stick with what I have.

50k problem free miles here (did have the 12v battery swapped out, but wasn't ever stranded). Still have a couple of the OG tires on too. While I do have some complaints, it's as close to a perfect vehicle as I've ever had.

 

[bfilippo]

To me, this just reinforces what an absolute steal the early adopters got on the OG quads. I really believe they will be sought after for those in the know.. Especially for us who locked down the Forest Edge interior. Large battery size, all of the options, and a sticker close to $40k cheaper. I’ll stick with what I have.

I think you’re right, only reason I went for a Gen2 is because I live in a rural area and really wanted the high res cameras and adaptive headlights, otherwise I would have definitely gone down to Atlanta to pickup a demo R1T.

 

[manitou202]

Not much to get excited about here over my G1, especially considering how much more expensive this one is. I don't think we should hold our breath for significant further improvements in the R1 platform. I know everyone's going to be disappointed by that but it just doesn't make sense for Rivian to put their limited and dwindling resources into a niche product that will never get them to profitability. Have a look at how little Tesla has invested into the S and X over the years compared to the 3 and Y if you want a peak at the future. This is probably as good as it's going to get from Rivian for a very long time.

Agreed.

I really wish Rivian had spent the time to iron out the suspension complaints, and develop a lower cost entry R1 variant instead of spending a bunch of resources on a Halo truck that will sell in extremely low numbers. It's cool, but not something I would ever buy.

We love our R1S (and our prior R1T), but the suspension is cringe worthy sometimes. It's a shame to hear the refresh isn't much better. Nothing competes with the R1 platform in terms of off-road capability and storage, but the R1 is terrible compared to other SUVs in this price range when it comes to rattles, suspension noise, and overall comfort.

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