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[SleepySheepie]

I *really* need a car I can use in the winter here, and was hoping to get a LE before the end of 2021.

I want to go electric, but need a vehicle that can handle Colorado.

I'm considering selling the mustang in this used car market and buying a Tacoma or 4Runner. If I do that, I probably will let my LE reservation lapse, and/or consider the 400 mile Rivian. That's a really defeating decision, because I had been so excited about this vehicle and the company. I've really lost interest based on the lack of communication and repeated delays.

Mostly same boat here. Need to get rid of my daily driver Kia that can't make it up my driveway in the snow. No chance that I get a Rivian before snow flies again. I started test driving used Tacomas and Raptors this past weekend, but everything is so damn expensive right now- frustrating.

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[SeaGeo]

Quick little note for people considering a Mach E as a temp solution. Two things that nudged me toward the ID.4 instead were that the Mach E doesn't have the capability to have a roof rack, and that the Mach E has 5.7" clearance vs about 8.3" for the ID.4. Sounds silly, but I've really appreciated that 1.5" driving up some forest roads lately.

 

[EVSport7]

Quick little note for people considering a Mach E as a temp solution. Two things that nudged me toward the ID.4 instead were that the Mach E doesn't have the capability to have a roof rack, and that the Mach E has 5.7" clearance vs about 8.3" for the ID.4. Sounds silly, but I've really appreciated that 1.5" driving up some forest roads lately.

I really wish they had more ground clearance. I think they would be a good option for my folks, but my dad likes to go digging around in the hills so AWD and decent ground clearance is a must

 

[SeaGeo]

I really wish they had more ground clearance. I think they would be a good option for my folks, but my dad likes to go digging around in the hills so AWD and decent ground clearance is a must

Yep! We (probably) won't stick with the ID.4 long term since RWD is all that was available at the time, but the Mach E clearance was a big bummer. As well as the total lack of roof rails. Ignoring the EV performance issues that bothered me, it is really a hatch back mustang and not a crossover.

 

[Forager]

We bought a well maintained LR3 6 months ago with the intent to own it for 3-5 years before buying a used R1S or new production model at the end of that time. Now we’ve decided to step up and order now, but we might still be waiting in 3 years!

 

[Rousie13]

I sold my Ram awhile back in anticipation of my R1T showing up relatively early in the delivery process (April 2019 preorder) until more details came to light on how deliveries will actually occur. I was driving my soon to be 16 year old daughters car which she would like to have back so I picked up a Wrangler 4xe JLU (man I wish they would have made the range even 50/60 miles instead of the 27). I’m still holding on with my reservation for now but I’m not sure if that will hold or not.

How do you like the 4xe? I had a 2020 JLUR that I traded in on my Model 3, but the daughter keeps talking about a Jeep again. If the wife would drive the Tesla, then I’d think about getting rid of her suv for the 4xe.

 

[Swilly]

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I moved back to Colorado in 2017 with a Mustang GT, which was a purchase when I was living in a different climate, and goes in the garage in the winter. I *really* need a car I can use in the winter here, and was hoping to get a LE before the end of 2021.

I walk to work, but I don't think I can go another winter of bumming rides from friends/family or renting vehicles during ski season. I want to go electric, but need a vehicle that can handle Colorado.

I'm considering selling the mustang in this used car market and buying a Tacoma or 4Runner. If I do that, I probably will let my LE reservation lapse, and/or consider the 400 mile Rivian. That's a really defeating decision, because I had been so excited about this vehicle and the company. I've really lost interest based on the lack of communication and repeated delays.
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Buy an old land cruiser from AZ or the Midwest for $10k. Best vehicle for Colorado winters and when your Rivian arrives, pull the side rails, add a snorkel and sell it for $15k in CO.

 

[acacia328]

How do you like the 4xe? I had a 2020 JLUR that I traded in on my Model 3, but the daughter keeps talking about a Jeep again. If the wife would drive the Tesla, then I’d think about getting rid of her suv for the 4xe.

I’m loving it so far. I was torn between the JLUR and the JLUHA and ended up with the HA. It was definitely made to still be a wrangler first and a hybrid second. The max regen is ok, granted it’s the first I’ve really had so I’m still getting used to it. It’s quicker/snappier than I thought it would be. The transitions between hybrid, electric and e-save modes are seamless. I’m running it completely stock right now with the exception of a spiderweb sunshade but some mods/upgrades are probably right around the corner.

Unfortunately i haven’t had a chance to get a L2 charger installed yet so I’m suffering through L1 charging which is less than ideal. Honestly if they could have made the range closer to 60 miles it would be a perfect hybrid for my particular use case. Although based upon where they put the battery (under the back seat) there will probably need to be a leap in battery tech or a material redesign to get a whole lot more range but I could be wrong on that given my limited knowledge on it.

The 27 mile range on a full charge is holding pretty true so far. Took a beating in the wind this morning but that’s to be expected.

I’ve had a few random software issues, like my activepark assist lines disappearing and then reappearing the next time I start the jeep, but nothing that I didn’t also have happen on my RAM so not specific to the 4xe.

Overall I’m extremely happy with it and as of now I would do it again.

 

[U100]

I preordered the R1T in May ‘20 and have spent every day since then stewing over what am I going to drive until my Rivian shows up. Sold my Ram 1500 this past April; don’t really know why. Then I decided I had to have a Tacoma; found a Lunar Rock TRD Pro in North Carolina so I flew out there and drove it home. Now I’m thinking about selling the Tacoma because it appears I could make a few bucks on it, so I decided to get a Hyundai Santa Cruz. Then I sobered up…

 

[DaveA]

I moved back to Colorado in 2017 with a Mustang GT, which was a purchase when I was living in a different climate, and goes in the garage in the winter. I *really* need a car I can use in the winter here, and was hoping to get a LE before the end of 2021.

I walk to work, but I don't think I can go another winter of bumming rides from friends/family or renting vehicles during ski season. I want to go electric, but need a vehicle that can handle Colorado.

I'm considering selling the mustang in this used car market and buying a Tacoma or 4Runner. If I do that, I probably will let my LE reservation lapse, and/or consider the 400 mile Rivian. That's a really defeating decision, because I had been so excited about this vehicle and the company. I've really lost interest based on the lack of communication and repeated delays.

Just got a 4Runner as my placeholder....shouldn't lose any value either. They are getting harder to find, especially 4wd.

 

[Gshenderson]

Just got a 4Runner as my placeholder....shouldn't lose any value either. They are getting harder to find, especially 4wd.

Good to hear. I have one to sell. If I ever get my Rivian! ?

 

[UT Rivian]

Just about decided to do a subscription through Volvo for an ICE XC40. I can get out of this without any strings in 5 months or keep it up to 24 months.

I have no idea when to expect my LE R1S in Salt Lake, with a mid 2019 order but no service centers here in the near future.

 

[Rousie13]

I’m loving it so far. I was torn between the JLUR and the JLUHA and ended up with the HA. It was definitely made to still be a wrangler first and a hybrid second. The max regen is ok, granted it’s the first I’ve really had so I’m still getting used to it. It’s quicker/snappier than I thought it would be. The transitions between hybrid, electric and e-save modes are seamless. I’m running it completely stock right now with the exception of a spiderweb sunshade but some mods/upgrades are probably right around the corner.

Unfortunately i haven’t had a chance to get a L2 charger installed yet so I’m suffering through L1 charging which is less than ideal. Honestly if they could have made the range closer to 60 miles it would be a perfect hybrid for my particular use case. Although based upon where they put the battery (under the back seat) there will probably need to be a leap in battery tech or a material redesign to get a whole lot more range but I could be wrong on that given my limited knowledge on it.

The 27 mile range on a full charge is holding pretty true so far. Took a beating in the wind this morning but that’s to be expected.

I’ve had a few random software issues, like my activepark assist lines disappearing and then reappearing the next time I start the jeep, but nothing that I didn’t also have happen on my RAM so not specific to the 4xe.

Overall I’m extremely happy with it and as of now I would do it again.

That’s great you like it. I would like one again, but I’m just struggling over the price. The dealer I bought my 2020 JLUR from quoted a good deal considering the current environment, but not nearly as good as I got on my 2020. They have no Jeeps to test drive though to see if I like the 4xe or power roof. If I know I can get the Rivian next summer, then I’ll definitely just wait though.

 

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[DucRider]

We've had "placeholder" vehicles for the last 8 years. We've been leasing EVs waiting for one that we would actually purchase.
Sold our last ICE car a couple of months ago.
Our Clarity Electric is lease only (can never be purchased). The lease is up in October, but we can extend it for two years on what amounts to a month-to-month contract. Notify Honda when we are done with it, drive to the dealer, hand them the keys and walk away.

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