CyberTruck is more than Stainless Steel...Tesla excels at Engineering in so many ways.

[crashmtb]

That's not an engineering marvel in my book. Yes, it's challenging, it's hard work, it's problem solving, it's time consuming - but it's still gluing together existing, well developed tech that others created.

To be an engineering marvel, in my book it has to be new and groundbreaking achievements and solutions - not solving problems related to designing and building a mashup of existing tech/products. The Hadron Collider, a lot of what Space X has done, the Space Shuttle, the ISS, Hubbel, Skylab, the Venice Tide Barriers, the Chunnel, the Panama Canal. Sorry, CT isn't even close to these.

It’s Not even the first roadgoing stainless steel rhombus

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[KootenayEV]

What do you mean, nope? It can do 250kw on a 400v charger(duh so can a model y, 3 ,x ,s) and faster on a v4, 350 max. However what it can do and what it will do are 2 different things.

I mean the 800v has nothing to do with the pack being able to hold a longer 250kW or 350kW; that is related to the ability of the pack to move waste heat and cell characteristics (I.e. will they put up with a ~3C charge rate).

 

[KootenayEV]

You are correct. He was confusing the HV system with the LV system.

Tesla is the first to move to a 48v LV system; pretty much curing the 12v woes we see in vehicles like the R1. Please, Rivian, copy this system ASAP.

it’s a bit early to claim that!!

 

[SANZC02]

Tesla is the first production vehicle to use a 48v LV system.

That alone is a bigger deal then most realize. I know with the weak 12v system in my R1 that I am looking at the CT with some LV envy...

I see no 12 volt outlets, I wonder if people will start complaining that things like portable fridges or a radar detector cannot be used unless they go through the waste of converting to 110, then getting a 110 to 12 volt converter.

 

[Throwdown]

I mean the 800v has nothing to do with the pack being able to hold a longer 250kW or 350kW; that is related to the ability of the pack to move waste heat and cell characteristics (I.e. will they put up with a ~3C charge rate).

It does because the higher the voltage the less resistance so the heat is less, and specific to this system is the 4680 cells which have less resistance than their previous cells

 

[lefkonj]

If by engineering you mean taking what others have done and wrapping it around a fridge on wheels, then sure.

This thing could fly it would still be ugly as all hell and just ridiculous.

 

[Stickboy46]

Ok
Full 48v system
Steer by wire
Battery cells made and developed in house
Bigger than an R1t but lighter
More torsional rigidity than a 911
Faster than an R1t with the same horsepower
The side view mirrors can be removed and the truck still functions normally

I don't like it but I respect it, I'm sure there is more

48v System - TBD on actual value to the customer. It saves Tesla money, but I don't give two shits about that, they obviously didn't pass along the savings

Steer by wire - TBD again. Steering predictability is an important thing in a quick reaction situation. This might help, or might hurt. Not sure its the ground breaking feature people keep talking it up to be.

Battery cells made in house ... umm i don't care where they make them. Do they charge better/faster? No? Ok, so another cost savings that wasn't passed along to the consumer

Bigger than the R1T but lighter - ok slight benefit, but even though its bigger it has less usable day to day space

More torsional ridigity than a 911 - That was an Elon quote so I'll wait until an independent 3rd party verifies. Its the type of BS that he likes to make up some weird fanboys can lock on to it, but no one else really cares enough about it to really test it.

Faster than R1T with same horsepower - well its lighter so yea ... And its marginally faster. Everything shown so far has * next to it, so yet again .. will wait for side by sides by truly independent 3rd parties (no .. people that were hand selected to make release videos aren't independent 3rd parties)

Side view mirrors can be removed - But why? I need side mirrors, so why do i want to remove them. I can also remove the hood of the Rivian and I'm sure I can drive it just fine. But it gives the same amount of benefit as removing the mirrors

 

[SANZC02]

Side view mirrors can be removed - But why? I need side mirrors, so why do i want to remove them. I can also remove the hood of the Rivian and I'm sure I can drive it just fine. But it gives the same amount of benefit as removing the mirrors

Maybe take them off on a trail but most states require 2 mirrors so if the bed cover is closed both sides would be required. Really makes no sense why people are even touting this.

 

[Stickboy46]

Maybe take them off on a trail but most states require 2 mirrors so if the bed cover is closed both sides would be required. Really makes no sense why people are even touting this.

Well if you taking a truck on a trail .. the cybertruck probably isn't the smartest choice anyways. And you can manually fold the mirrors on lots of trucks which gets 90% of that benefit anyways.

 

[zipzag]

I see no 12 volt outlets,

A number of detailes are missing. For example, the head Tesla vehicle engineer said that cracks don't spread in the windshield. Also one reviewer said that at least the top config has a front locker.

I think Tesla wants potential buyers "on the fence" to choose a different Tesla that they can deliver soon

 

[zipzag]

48v System - TBD on actual value to the customer. It saves Tesla money, but I don't give two shits about that, they obviously didn't pass along the savings

Steer by wire - TBD again. Steering predictability is an important thing in a quick reaction situation. This might help, or might hurt. Not sure its the ground breaking feature people keep talking it up to be.

Battery cells made in house ... umm i don't care where they make them. Do they charge better/faster? No? Ok, so another cost savings that wasn't passed along to the consumer

Bigger than the R1T but lighter - ok slight benefit, but even though its bigger it has less usable day to day space

More torsional ridigity than a 911 - That was an Elon quote so I'll wait until an independent 3rd party verifies. Its the type of BS that he likes to make up some weird fanboys can lock on to it, but no one else really cares enough about it to really test it.

Faster than R1T with same horsepower - well its lighter so yea ... And its marginally faster. Everything shown so far has * next to it, so yet again .. will wait for side by sides by truly independent 3rd parties (no .. people that were hand selected to make release videos aren't independent 3rd parties)

Side view mirrors can be removed - But why? I need side mirrors, so why do i want to remove them. I can also remove the hood of the Rivian and I'm sure I can drive it just fine. But it gives the same amount of benefit as removing the mirrors

These points are mostly features, not owner benefits. Smart people buy benefits.

 

[DuoRivians]

So when steer by wire fails on the Cybertruck when you’re driving (and it will with non-zero probability), are you supposed to press the left and right steering wheel buttons, wait 5 minutes for reboot, and in the mean time, hope you have 5 minutes of straight roads and no cars, obstacles ahead of you?

Steer by wire looks more like a solution waiting for a problem for me.

In addition, I can’t imagine using steer by wire when going off-roading. Where low speed precision steering is really important

 

[zipzag]

So when steer by wire fails on the Cybertruck when you’re driving (and it will with non-zero probability), are you supposed to press the left and right steering wheel buttons, wait 5 minutes for reboot, and in the mean time, hope you have 5 minutes of straight roads and no cars, obstacles ahead of you?

Steer by wire looks more like a solution waiting for a problem for me.

In addition, I can’t imagine using steer by wire when going off-roading. Where low speed precision steering is really important

So you don't travel by air?

Off road evaluation of the CT will be interesting

 

[DuoRivians]

So you don't travel by air?

Off road evaluation of the CT will be interesting

Airplanes have numerous fail safe mechanisms in place and they have physical space for those extra failsafe mechanisms. And regulations for all of this.

I’d love to see what failsafe backups the CT has

 

[defcon888]

From what I have heard and read, in order to get to the speeds and specs. of a R1T, it will cost about $100k. I want to know how the $60k or $70 performs?.

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