Confirmed: R2 reservation holders will be invited to configure orders in June

[hsctiger]

What makes you say that? I'm waiting for forest green and the coastal cloud interior myself. Sick of having black seats that are so hot in the summer, also just want something different. I'd love a tan or brown interior to pair with the exterior green, but those interior colors barely exist anymore in any brand these days.

I dunno. Just can't see it working. Maybe if I saw in person I'd change my mind but I ain't waiting if my number gets called (lotto's chance in hell, but anything's possible). Also, my kids are grown so I don't need to worry about stains on a white interior. The dog, however...

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[Jeremy3292]

I dunno. Just can't see it working. Maybe if I saw in person I'd change my mind but I ain't waiting if my number gets called (lotto's chance in hell, but anything's possible). Also, my kids are grown so I don't need to worry about stains on a white interior. The dog, however...

Good news it's much more light grey than white. If it was white like Tesla seats I'd be out. Light grey is awesome to me.

 

[Gen(R3)Xer]

The Cybertruck was a failure because they never hit their price/performance targets. The appearance is polarizing, but they got a sh*t ton of orders when people thought the price was going to be lower than it turned out to be.

Raising the price of the R2 would be a huge mistake, IMO. Huge.

Absolutely. They already dealt with a pricing debacle in the past with the R1 when they tried to raise the price on reservation holders. They’re not going to go there again.

 

[mdpa]

I wouldn't assume a price increase would be out of the question. I had the $100 deposit on the Cybertruck and would have purchased, but the base version was too de-featured. They fixed it with the new version this year and it was a hit at $59K (after I already purchased the Model Y instead), but popped back up to $69K within 2-weeks.

I also had a $100 deposit on the Ford Lightning, but they did the exact same thing. Nothing near the price they promised, and anything close was substantially de-featured. Glad I avoided that mistake since it has already been abandoned.

If the Cybertruck came back down to $59K I might purchase instead because it is a better value but I also have a garage that only gives me a few inches of extra space; all of these trucks are oversized (Ford, Chevy, Cybertruck, Scout). Rivian really gets the size right on all of their vehicles.

I must enjoy using my $100 play money, since I am now targeting the R2 for our 2nd electric car (still cross shopping against a 2nd Model Y, performance or L version).

 

[Mos Eisley]

Yeah, and then they'll say "Silver is the most popular color. People want more gray!" As a millennial, I am sick of gray.

As a much older than a millenial, gray is inevitable.

 

[Jeremy3292]

I wouldn't assume a price increase would be out of the question. I had the $100 deposit on the Cybertruck and would have purchased, but the base version was too de-featured. They fixed it with the new version this year and it was a hit at $59K (after I already purchased the Model Y instead), but popped back up to $69K within 2-weeks.

I also had a $100 deposit on the Ford Lightning, but they did the exact same thing. Nothing near the price they promised, and anything close was substantially de-featured. Glad I avoided that mistake since it has already been abandoned.

If the Cybertruck came back down to $59K I might purchase instead because it is a better value but I also have a garage that only gives me a few inches of extra space; all of these trucks are oversized (Ford, Chevy, Cybertruck, Scout). Rivian really gets the size right on all of their vehicles.

I must enjoy using my $100 play money, since I am now targeting the R2 for our 2nd electric car (still cross shopping against a 2nd Model Y, performance or L version).

Yeah but Rivian didn't announce R2 pricing years in advance, other than a quick "we'll have a $45k variant at some point". Tesla said we'd have a $40k Cybertruck! That obviously never happened bc they announced it 2+ years in advance. Rivian only announced R2 pricing like a month ago and they already know the cost structure of their product vs. guessing 2 years away. They made the mistake of raising prices heavily on R1 owners at the beginning and then quickly reverted back; they won't make that mistake again.

IMO

 

[tivoboy]

I’m going to bet we start seeing some current Rivian owners with day 1 reservations getting ordering access just after this weekend holiday.. I think I’ll make a poll. ;-)

 

[cusetownusa]

I wouldn't assume a price increase would be out of the question. I had the $100 deposit on the Cybertruck and would have purchased, but the base version was too de-featured. They fixed it with the new version this year and it was a hit at $59K (after I already purchased the Model Y instead), but popped back up to $69K within 2-weeks.

I also had a $100 deposit on the Ford Lightning, but they did the exact same thing. Nothing near the price they promised, and anything close was substantially de-featured. Glad I avoided that mistake since it has already been abandoned.

If the Cybertruck came back down to $59K I might purchase instead because it is a better value but I also have a garage that only gives me a few inches of extra space; all of these trucks are oversized (Ford, Chevy, Cybertruck, Scout). Rivian really gets the size right on all of their vehicles.

I must enjoy using my $100 play money, since I am now targeting the R2 for our 2nd electric car (still cross shopping against a 2nd Model Y, performance or L version).

just an FYI in regards to the model y...I believe they have removed the standard autopilot that used to come with the Teslas. If that is important to you I believe you would need to subscribe to FSD for $100 per month.

 

[SolidTHX1138]

I’m going to bet we start seeing some current Rivian owners with day 1 reservations getting ordering access just after this weekend holiday.. I think I’ll make a poll. ;-)

First none Rivian employee to receive their R2 should make a post "First."

 

[Longreach]

The real issue at the moment is I'm having trouble paying $$$ for a color change without knowing there is some underlying reason for paying more.

Agreed the paint/interior pricing is just offensive opportunism. This kind of Tesla style gouging is not going to sit well with the mainstream target market. The light interior upcharge is particularly egregious since it is needed in some hot parts of the country. Mainstream manufacturers understand that, but apparently Rivian does not. And no mainstream manufacturer restricts customers to one single base color, at least not since the model T.

 

[rfkxyz]

Agreed the paint/interior pricing is just offensive opportunism. This kind of Tesla style gouging is not going to sit well with the mainstream target market. The light interior upcharge is particularly egregious since it is needed in some hot parts of the country.

Whatever I get when the time comes (thinking ~summer 2027 for MY28), I'll buy it outright, put the title in my files, and drive it for 20 years (my XC90 has 275k miles). So less concerned with the total spend at the time if the product is right.

That said, I don't take well to feeling fleeced - the color-change upcharges and charger-charges feel exactly like that. Add in the sub-$13 stock price (as of yesterday's close) and Rivian starts to seem a bit sketchy. But I have time to wait & watch, we'll see.

 

[mkhuffman]

Agreed the paint/interior pricing is just offensive opportunism. This kind of Tesla style gouging is not going to sit well with the mainstream target market. The light interior upcharge is particularly egregious since it is needed in some hot parts of the country. Mainstream manufacturers understand that, but apparently Rivian does not. And no mainstream manufacturer restricts customers to one single base color, at least not since the model T.

...
... I don't take well to feeling fleeced - the color-change upcharges and charger-charges feel exactly like that. Add in the sub-$13 stock price (as of yesterday's close) and Rivian starts to seem a bit sketchy. But I have time to wait & watch, we'll see.

I have a different take on this.

Rivian is cash flow negative. The R1 must generate cash for the business or Rivian will cease to exist. They are not "sketchy", they are making smart business decisions that are necessary for their survival.

And they created a car company from nothing. That is amazingly hard to do. They are a serious business making serious and fiscally sound business decisions. That is the opposite of "sketchy", IMO.

Rivian has been targeting certain price levels that are needed for them to sell enough to be cash flow positive. By providing a base version with a standard color they can meet those price targets and sell a lot of trucks to people who don't really care about the color. And hopefully it will be enough that the R2 generates cash and slows the bleeding. Wouldn't it be great if they actually became profitable?

Color pricing might not be what all the other brands are doing, but so what? If price is that important to you (and I understand if it is), then get the one that has no upcharges. If the color is really that important to you, then pay for it. Quite simple, and fair. If you don't think it is worth the cost, nobody is forcing you to pay for it.

And if price is that important to you, wait for the color you want to be available as a used vehicle. Buying new is one of the worst financial things you can do, so be patient, get what you want, and don't pay for new car depreciation. Simple and fair.

 

[mdpa]

So many considerations...when will I be able to place an order? Will it have Lidar by then? Probably not, so will I be OK with the basic point to point FSD planned by the end of year?

What changes will Tesla have in place by then? The range is not much lower than my Model Y RWD (357 vs 330). I've been happy with my range, but would rather go up 10% than down. I tend to drive fast on the highway and a little concerned it won't be as efficient in the real world due to the shape.

Looks like there are a few compelling options from traditional brands, but so far they have casually bailed on whole segments. Rivian isn't profitable, but is being backed by Amazon & VW so still likely to survive if this is a hit. Tesla is a known entity, so very little risk. I do like the offroad positioning of this model. Not as much as the Scout, but good enough for almost anyone.

 

[rfkxyz]

Where’s the filter button to block cheerleading?

I’ll be writing a check and filing the title. Doesn’t mean I like feeling fleeced.

Good news is stock is back over $13 at this moment. Must be due to all those smart business decisions.

 

[Anthny]

Remember gas prices will go down. Also 'Big Oil' is not just fuel products. It is everything you touch now, from ink to building materials.

I'm hopeful and doubtful simultaneously.

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