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I'm a recently retired engineer who had a data analysis itch to scratch. Bad weather today in Minnesota with an early season snowfall and cold windy conditions so took some time to dig into the data on plugshare.com. I took a sampling of up to 50 charging locations across the country for a few providers to get a statistical sample of the user reports. The data is shown in a few charts below.

A few notes:
I did not include Rivian because a fair number of people gave a bad report because they tried to use non-Rivian at that location.
If a location got bad scores because of ICE'ing or lack of access due to construction I did not use that location.
For Tesla, I used only the locations that currently have the MagicDock for CCS use
If a location got a lot of bad scores because of CHAdeMO problems I did not use that location.
If a location is very new and not officially open I did not use it.
The "Zef" network is a small one based in MN and surrounding states. I selfishly included that network because, well, I live in MN...
Not all networks were looked at. My itch wasn't that big :)



Chart 1). Simple average of the current plugshare scores ranked from best provider to worst.
Rivian R1T R1S DC Fast Charger Provider Rankings Avg Scor


Chart 2). A distribution plot showing each individual location's score.
Rivian R1T R1S DC Fast Charger Provider Rankings Scor


About Charts 1 and 2.
The Flo network was the best but those chargers were mostly 50 kW. ChargePoint did very well but most of those were 62.5 kW. The Tesla average was dragged down mostly by Chevy Bolt owners, the Bolt's seem to be having issues using the MagicDock. A few other brands reported MagicDock issues too, including Rivian, but for the most parts the MagicDocks seem to be working OK. EA (Electrify America) got a high average score because they generally have many stations at a location and even if some stations are offline people could still charge successfully.

At the other end of the spectrum Petro Canada and EVgo did really, really poorly. Even EVgo's 50kW chargers did poorly.

Rivian would have scored very highly, probably the highest, but the non-Rivian charging attempts artificially gave those locations a lower ranking.



Chart 3 shows the advertised max power of each location.
Rivian R1T R1S DC Fast Charger Provider Rankings Power


Notes about Chart 3.
Flo and Chargepoint have slow chargers but they just work. EA has fast chargers that very often are derated making them more or less the same speed as ChargePoint. Zef has slow chargers that all too often don't work, which sucks for me....


Chart 4: Based on user reports of derating I calculated the % of locations that had at least one derated charger.


Rivian R1T R1S DC Fast Charger Provider Rankings % Derated


Notes on Chart 4: Tesla and Rivian were very often at full power. Flo and ChargPoint just work, they are not powerful but they are reliable and predicable. EA very very often had at least one station derated but they still worked. Petro-Canada? Wow, ugh.......


In conclusion; Rivian RAN network is rocking it right now. Tesla MagicDock is off to a good start but do a practice run before a roadtrip where you need to rely on it. Electrify America is still probably the next go-to network as you will likely find functional, all be it, derated chargers. ChargePoint and Flo are solid providers. I didn't mention much about Shell, they are OK-ish but do your plugshare homework before you hit them. Petro-Canda and EVgo are providers of last resort.

Hope some people find this useful. Confirms the conventional wisdom but nice to have numbers to back it up. Maybe a better way to shame the providers into doing a better job.
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Nice sample of data.

I find your EA results in the chart to be much closer to my personal experience, much different than all of the negativity I read on the forums.
 

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Wow this is great. I 100% agree with the rankings based on my EV charging experience. The only correction I would have is that the magic dock is limited to 150kw even though the station can go up to 250kw. Also when is ZEF going to fix the charger in Virginia, MN!
 
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Interesting. You numbers don't seem to correlate well with posts on this forum. My impression based on the forum's opinion would be (best to worst):

1) RAN
2) EvGo / Tesla Magic Dock
3) ChargePoint
4) Francis Energy
5) EA
 

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Interesting. You numbers don't seem to correlate well with posts on this forum. My impression based on the forum's opinion would be (best to worst):

1) RAN
2) EvGo / Tesla Magic Dock
3) ChargePoint
4) Francis Energy
5) EA
That was pretty much what I was saying for EA, my personal experience has been pretty decent for EA and I usually look for those when I travel. EVgo has been ok but seems to be a lot more expensive compared to EA.

A recent example,

EVgo Charged 25%, went from 67% to 92%, took 36 minutes and cost $27.20
EA. Charged 51%, went from 29% to 80%, took 35 minutes, cost $27.00

Extra time was expected because I went to 92%, more about the cost.

I will say though the plug and charge at EVgo although not as quick as the Superchargers to initialize and start charging, is nice to use. I really hope we can get that on other networks soon.
 

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yeah I think everyone is going to have different personal experiences. My ranking is:

1) RAN
2) Magic Dock
3) Chargepoint
4) Shell
5) ZEF
6) EVGo
 

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...The Tesla average was dragged down mostly by Chevy Bolt owners, the Bolt's seem to be having issues using the MagicDock....
Those Chevy Bolts should be banned from using DCFC altogether, I see them hogging 350kw chargers all the time :rolleyes:
 

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Those Chevy Bolts should be banned from using DCFC altogether, I see them hogging 350kw chargers all the time :rolleyes:
So only people with super expensive EVs that charge really fast should be allowed to use DCFC...

Me and the folks over at the country club were just talking about this the other day.

Rivian R1T R1S DC Fast Charger Provider Rankings 1698791963381
 
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Interesting. You numbers don't seem to correlate well with posts on this forum. My impression based on the forum's opinion would be (best to worst):

1) RAN
2) EvGo / Tesla Magic Dock
3) ChargePoint
4) Francis Energy
5) EA
EA gets ripped a lot but they have so many chargers at a given location that people are still able to charge even if many are broken so the Plugshare scoring method still gives them a high score.
 
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yeah I think everyone is going to have different personal experiences. My ranking is:

1) RAN
2) Magic Dock
3) Chargepoint
4) Shell
5) ZEF
6) EVGo
I did a quasi-random national sample with inherent sampling error. Results will vary by region.
 

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EA gets ripped a lot but they have so many chargers at a given location that people are still able to charge even if many are broken so the Plugshare scoring method still gives them a high score.
Lets not forget that a lot of the negative scores come from people that bitch that the station is full, even when all sites are working. Yes they could add more stalls but it's not EAs fault that in many cases they are the only show in town.
 

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Those Chevy Bolts should be banned from using DCFC altogether, I see them hogging 350kw chargers all the time :rolleyes:
Although I agree they should be using the slower chargers when they are available, they still need to charge. Some could also argue Rivians shouldn’t use the 350kw chargers since they don’t max out near that high.
 
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Wow this is great. I 100% agree with the rankings based on my EV charging experience. The only correction I would have is that the magic dock is limited to 150kw even though the station can go up to 250kw. Also when is ZEF going to fix the charger in Virginia, MN!
And Clam Lake, WI and Sturgeon Lake, MN and Litchfield, MN etc…….
 

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EA gets ripped a lot but they have so many chargers at a given location that people are still able to charge even if many are broken so the Plugshare scoring method still gives them a high score.
IMO for this reason it's flawed to even consider the Plugshare rating as a valid data source. There was an EA station between Savannah, GA and Charleston, SC which was derated to 50kWh for a year which still had a 9+ rating, even though people were topping out at ~20kWh. IMO if you're not getting within +/- 20% of the rated speed (assuming you're fast charging at reasonable battery levels) then it should ding the location.
 

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What happens when you filter out all chargers rated below 150kw?

Remember, the old low power units did not need cable cooling, which definitely adds a failure point. I have never seen a ChargePoint charger with greater than 62kw and I actually have seen many of those broken or reported as down on Plugshare.

Also, many of the EVGO 50kw stations are really old, those were the very first CCS chargers ever installed. The newer EVGO sites seem much more reliable to me. EVGO is decommissioning many of the older ones.
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