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lol how did this happen? Were you there overnight, or just early/late? We almost went there last night for a tour but ended up just going to berthoud pass. I was a little afraid an issue parking at WP during the storm last night.20s did great grinding out of this cage the WP plows trapped me in! Skin track/ski pics solely for entertainment value
My experience has been completely different in Utah where we've received record snowfall statewide. ALTA ski resort is quickly closing in on 900" for the season. I've driven my 21s in horrible road conditions around town, to/from Bear Lake, and to my friend's snowmobile guide ranch of 40,000 private acres with little to no slipping or sliding. Interesting contrast to your experience. It was an absolute whiteout blizzard here last night and I was forced to be out and about on I-80 & I-15. It was immediately filling in shortly behind the swath of plows that were out and everyone, myself included, were driving 30 - 40mph with wipers on full blast. My R1T performed admirably on the 21s.Second time driving with snow falling in Colorado with stock 21ās and Iām seriously thinking these are summer tires. Iām still trying to unsuctioncup my butt from the seat. Even with just a tiny bit of water and slush and Iām all over the road and trying my damndest to stay straight. Even going 20mph in snow mode and I was fish tailing a bit and had to get off the highway. Their first storm was literally driving on ice, but was was getting passed up by every car on the road and felt like I had 0 traction.
Hi State11, live in Truckee/Sacramento. Which should I go 20's or 21's?Andy, which Blizzaks did you get? I was pretty unimpressed with the Nokians I had on the r1t vs the Blizzaks I had on my discovery, but it could be just the additional weight of the Rivian.
How often do you drive up/down in winter? For me living here, I had to at least have 20's with the AT's. If anyone made snow tires for the 21's, that would be the wheel. The range is very impressive with the 21's.....not so much with the 20's. My wife's S is en route to W Sac now. I ordered it with 20's and once it arrives, I'll put the 21's on it. I'll buy snow tires for the 20's and put those on the S. Then I plan to either try to T for a season with the 20's or reinstall my Nokians (I need to buy one due to a self inflicted flat in the Palisades Tahoe parking lot).Hi State11, live in Truckee/Sacramento. Which should I go 20's or 21's?
I was thinking 21'st as mostly driving highway and I would just replace the tires with a pair of Michelin Cross Cliamte 2. I have these tires on my Highlander now and they were great all winter, just great.
Thoughts?
Not sure the CrossClimate 2's have the load index required to be safely installed on the Rivian. You need a minimum of 115 due to the weight of the vehidle. They don't offer the 21's in anything higher than 108.Hi State11, live in Truckee/Sacramento. Which should I go 20's or 21's?
I was thinking 21'st as mostly driving highway and I would just replace the tires with a pair of Michelin Cross Cliamte 2. I have these tires on my Highlander now and they were great all winter, just great.
Thoughts?
Ok thanks.Not sure the CrossClimate 2's have the load index required to be safely installed on the Rivian. You need a minimum of 115 due to the weight of the vehidle. They don't offer the 21's in anything higher than 108.
Ok thanks (new to this), so on a set of 108 load rating (that's 4x 2,200 lbs right?) so 8,800 total load.Not sure the CrossClimate 2's have the load index required to be safely installed on the Rivian. You need a minimum of 115 due to the weight of the vehidle. They don't offer the 21's in anything higher than 108.
I should note that I have very little tolerance for loss of traction (grew up in the middle part of NC where we got mostly black ice/sleet, etc that I can't forget).Hi State11,
Thanks for the reply. We drive up about 15-20 trips up/down year. Spread pretty even, having lived often in snowy places I am not afraid to come up if the pass is open in the storms.
I have not dove totally deep on tires but finding 3peak snow tires in 21" is a problem? That's a rare size or EV tires in 21" are not normal? Tesla's I assume are smaller?
I am heavily leaning towards the better efficiency in the 21's, use up those tires and then put on 3peak rated tires as a next set. That is unless the 21's tires that come stock are really that bad. Then maybe I make two sets of wheels, but that sounds a bit over the top.
Anyway appreciate the comments.
This is an old post but I have to say I had the SAME experience with the AT 20s this winter. I was up just past evergreen on 70 and it was the wet slushy stuff before it started freezing completely this past weekend and we had to bail and turn back. Alot of people were sliding there but that was the most scared ive been driving in the winter and I grew up in Vermont with crappy cars and crappy tires.Second time driving with snow falling in Colorado with stock 21ās and Iām seriously thinking these are summer tires. Iām still trying to unsuctioncup my butt from the seat. Even with just a tiny bit of water and slush and Iām all over the road and trying my damndest to stay straight. Even going 20mph in snow mode and I was fish tailing a bit and had to get off the highway. Their first storm was literally driving on ice, but was was getting passed up by every car on the road and felt like I had 0 traction.
Yes, I should have updated my post. The issue was found that my alignment was so off, the outside half of my rears were completely bald after 2k miles, which was about the time I was sliding in my post. I didnāt realize that until a week or two later when showing off the truck and it got pointed out. Double check your tread is good and if not from a few thousand miles, check the alignment.This is an old post but I have to say I had the SAME experience with the AT 20s this winter. I was up just past evergreen on 70 and it was the wet slushy stuff before it started freezing completely this past weekend and we had to bail and turn back. Alot of people were sliding there but that was the most scared ive been driving in the winter and I grew up in Vermont with crappy cars and crappy tires.
Nothing replaces snow tire performance, don't care how good your tires are A/T or otherwise. For me, snow tires are like insurance - I'd gladly pay the $1,000-$1,500 to have multiple winter seasons of superior performance. Especially when I am driving my family and in the mountains. I grew up in Michigan and NEVER had snow tires, but it's flat and generally easy to get around. Here in Colorado, especially with a truck of this weight, they are almost a necessity. I know a lot of people feel all season tires are "good enough" but nothing will replace the performance of snows. They literally turn my vehicles into winter tanks in the ski season.This is an old post but I have to say I had the SAME experience with the AT 20s this winter. I was up just past evergreen on 70 and it was the wet slushy stuff before it started freezing completely this past weekend and we had to bail and turn back. Alot of people were sliding there but that was the most scared ive been driving in the winter and I grew up in Vermont with crappy cars and crappy tires.