echerod
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- Rodolfo
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Announcing our new "CLUBS" section where you can join or create a Rivian club or group! You can use this new feature to conveniently plan and discuss local events, gatherings or other club/group related topics.
So we encourage you to join (or start) special-interest and regional-based Rivian clubs at: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/group-categories/clubs-groups.1/
Yea. They are burning a forest full of trees every night across the fleet! The constant waking up and data collection while vehicles are parked is not necessary. Data should be collected while the vehicles is being driven only.But how can they be sustainable with all the vampire drain!!! /s
Isn’t the R1 small pack supposed to also be LFP?R1 is NCA. Amazon vans are LFP.
When it comes out.Isn’t the R1 small pack supposed to also be LFP?
That’s not what we signed up for. They can take data whenever. And last I checked we aren’t getting much energy from burning trees.Yea. They are burning a forest full of trees every night across the fleet! The constant waking up and data collection while vehicles are parked is not necessary. Data should be collected while the vehicles is being driven only.
So don't take that additional revenue stream that makes Rivian more () affordable and funds the future R2 line? Let Tesla have a monopoly on the system that funds EV manufacturing?Are they still selling pollution credits to the highest bidder? That negates any environmental benefit to buying a Rivian. They should keep these credits to themselves, not sell them in order to sabotage the EV programs of competitors. Then buying a Rivian would not allow some other legacy auto manufacturer to sell one more gas guzzling SUV.
It doesn't really fund EV manufacturing. The money is a drop in the bucket. But selling these credits:So don't take that additional revenue stream that makes Rivian more () affordable and funds the future R2 line? Let Tesla have a monopoly on the system that funds EV manufacturing?
Rivian doesn't post REC revenue but Tesla does. $1.8 BILLION for 2022 with 1.3 million vehicles sold = $1384/vehicle * Rivians ~50k delivered for 2023... likely about $69 million. My only finance experience is in government, and last I checked, $69 million is an F-18 Super Hornet. That's a lot of dough to leave on the table for your principles.It doesn't really fund EV manufacturing. The money is a drop in the bucket. But selling these credits:
If Tesla and Rivian didn't sell these credits, we would have a wider variety of EV models on the road, sooner, and at a cheaper price (in order to comply with regulatory quotas). So if you're pro-Rivian, or have a bunch of Rivian stock and that's all you care about sure, selling them is good. But if you're pro-planet Earth, selling them is bad.
- Measurably increases pollution, by allowing others to sell dirtier cars
- Delays the EV programs of other manufacturers, by allowing them to buy credits instead of selling EVs
Of course, Rivian's own sustainability report doesn't mention this foul practice at all. You can't trust corporate propaganda to give you the real picture.