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Midnight train to Georgia derailed? Article: "Georgia demands Rivian secure, maintain factory site"

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If only SC didn't kowtow to their auto-dealers so much as to have their head up their own frunk they could have been under consideration for a plant next door to BMW and down the street from Michelin tires ... and I could lease.
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If only SC didn't kowtow to their auto-dealers so much as to have their head up their own frunk they could have been under consideration for a plant next door to BMW and down the street from Michelin tires ... and I could lease.
Preach brother.

The weird affinity for dealers may be my least favorite thing about SC.
 

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This looks like a pretty normal back-and-forth for figuring out a path forward with dramatically changed plans.

GA has some legitimate concerns about the state of the site, and wants to get plans/commitments to mitigate those concerns.

Even the well-intentioned corners of corporate America have a habit of ignoring externalities unless there is a forcing function. It's reasonable for GA and Rivian to come to a contractually binding agreement for the site and future building commitments.
 

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So I guess security and runoff management weren't as big of a concern if construction was going full speed ahead but now the state is concerned about it if construction is paused? Seems kind of silly, but whatever. It should be a concern no matter what's happening on site.
The long-term solution for runoff was that the factory would be completed, resolving the issue.

It is entirely reasonable that the state is now asking Rivian to provide a new plan for runoff, now that the plans have changed for completing the factory.
 

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The long-term solution for runoff was that the factory would be completed, resolving the issue.

It is entirely reasonable that the state is now asking Rivian to provide a new plan for runoff, now that the plans have changed for completing the factory.
My post wasn’t to suggest that the state shouldn’t be concerned about runoff. It’s that they should have been concerned about it from day 1, and in constant discussions with Rivian and the contractor(s) about evolving runoff mitigation and security needs.
 

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Full disclaimer: I have not read the article.

While I agree with your latter points about financial support to expand manufacturing, I'd add to the former that I think the state's concerns (as you've described them) are valid in the context of paused construction. Clearing a lot of forest and then leaving it to sit will definitely create significant runoff problems as a result of erosion. This isn't an urgent concern when construction is ongoing because water management solutions will readily take shape as progress is made, but no progress means non-existent/inadequate water management. The same goes for security - trouble makers love to go to open spaces like this and fool around, especially if it's known that plans are on hold indefinitely and no one is coming around.
All they have to do is the same thing we do in California after a forest fire. Planes or Helicopters loaded with grass seed fly over burned land and seeds the ground. They could do the same thing here.
 

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My post wasn’t to suggest that the state shouldn’t be concerned about runoff. It’s that they should have been concerned about it from day 1, and in constant discussions with Rivian and the contractor(s) about evolving runoff mitigation and security needs.
And I'm stating that they were concerned from day 1, and increased runoff could only be partially mitigated until the factory was complete. Completion of the factory was the solution to ending the planned increased runoff during the construction phase.

Some increased runoff was accepted as part of the inevitable consequences of construction, and has always been part of the conversation. There was never a construction option where there was no increase in runoff.

This step now to determine runoff mitigation work while the factory construction is paused, is part of the constant conversation that began way back when Rivian requested zoning for a factory.
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