Newsom just signed sliding scale electric rates... Defeated

[Tim-in-CA]

Yea, this will be complete BS if it is eventually implemented. The last thing I want is for So Cal Edison to have access to my tax records!!!

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[defcon888]

So when you make that run to Prescott -- wave at us. We aren't far off Hwy 89a -- that road you take from Cottonwood to Prescott. We have a Prescott address.

If you check out the APS page they don't really mention the EV rate plan at all. Even when you go to the EV Page. It lists programs that are no longer offered. They need some website help for sure. I've included the price for the EV plan I've subscribed to. 46 cents a day just to be hooked up but 3.5/kWh for 11 pm to 5 am, 44-46.5 cents (depending on season) for peak, M-F weekdays from 4 pm - 7 pm, and about 12.3 cents all other times.

thank you very much for the information. We are planning on getting solar and a power wall to offset some of the cost. I know the powerwalls are only around 13kW of storage which will run the house at night but not enough to charge the R1T overnight.

With PG&E we only charge at 9 pm and stop around 9 am, so we are used to the schedule.

Thanks again!

P.S. Look for a Blue R1T and by then a red R2.

 

[azbill]

So when you make that run to Prescott -- wave at us. We aren't far off Hwy 89a -- that road you take from Cottonwood to Prescott. We have a Prescott address.

If you check out the APS page they don't really mention the EV rate plan at all. Even when you go to the EV Page. It lists programs that are no longer offered. They need some website help for sure. I've included the price for the EV plan I've subscribed to. 46 cents a day just to be hooked up but 3.5/kWh for 11 pm to 5 am, 44-46.5 cents (depending on season) for peak, M-F weekdays from 4 pm - 7 pm, and about 12.3 cents all other times.

Super off peak for me, Phoenix area, is 10-3, but only Nov through April..

 

[hgpayne]

Super off peak for me, Phoenix area, is 10-3, but only Nov through April..

That is the standard TOU plan. Call and ask for the EV plan. It says you have to prove you have an EV to get the rate but they didn’t ask me to show any proof. The peak 4-7 rate is about 10¢ / kWh higher but you get that cheap super off peak rate year round from 11 pm to 5 am. You don’t get that 10-3 block during winter though. I’ve updated my scripts to log my use and compute the costs at the various rates to see if I did choose wisely.

 

[hgpayne]

We are planning on getting solar and a power wall to offset some of the cost. I know the powerwalls are only around 13kW of storage which will run the house at night but not enough to charge the R1T overnight.

We had solar and 3 PWs in San Diego. Electricity was so expensive it made sense. The system paid for itself in 7 years including the PWs. Power here is so cheap I don’t think it pencils out. I’ll wait until I have 6 months of bills to determine if I will add solar. I do plan on adding some batteries to carry the peak time and to act as backup for a power outage.

 

[emoore]

So can someone change the title of the thread since it seems like an outright lie?

 

[azbill]

That is the standard TOU plan. Call and ask for the EV plan. It says you have to prove you have an EV to get the rate but they didn’t ask me to show any proof. The peak 4-7 rate is about 10¢ / kWh higher but you get that cheap super off peak rate year round from 11 pm to 5 am. You don’t get that 10-3 block during winter though. I’ve updated my scripts to log my use and compute the costs at the various rates to see if I did choose wisely.

Thanks for that tip, they have never offered me an alternate EV plan. I have 3 EVs and two chargers. My peak usage is typically less than 10%, but have the demand charge also.

 

[SANZC02]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!

Income-based utility rate hike headed for defeat
Dear Friends,

The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has proposed a limited flat rate for residential electricity after I pressured them to stop plans to impose an income-based structure that would cause most bills to skyrocket.

Electric bills are already high enough. Over the past year, I have been lobbying against this disastrous new plan that would have dire financial impact to residents in Orange County and throughout the state.

We can’t afford any new tax, fee or scheme by the government to take more of our hard earned dollars. Many people are having to decide between putting gas in their cars and buying groceries.

The CPUC appears to have heard the message.

Last week the agency came up with a new proposal that cuts usage rates up to 7 cents per kilowatt-hour, saving more than $28 a month. This rate structure has a 20-day public comment period and comes up for a vote on May 9.

The original income-based plan was contained in the 2022 budget trailer bill AB 205, which authorized the CPUC to create the income-based fixed charge.

Together with the Senate Republican Caucus, I wrote a letter to the CPUC in April 2023 asking the agency to reject this rate hike. This was followed up with a letter seven months later to Gov. Gavin Newsom detailing bipartisan concerns over the income-based plan.

We also attempted to repeal AB 205, but that was unsuccessful. Now I have coauthored a new bill to repeal income-based charges on electric bills to make sure this will never happen in the future. Please support our efforts. I will keep you informed about this issue in future emails.

You can read about the CPUC’s new proposal here: https://shorturl.at/wFJR3

Sincerely,

JANET NGUYEN
Senator, Thirty-Sixth District
California State Legislature

 

[emoore]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!

Income-based utility rate hike headed for defeat
Dear Friends,

The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has proposed a limited flat rate for residential electricity after I pressured them to stop plans to impose an income-based structure that would cause most bills to skyrocket.

Electric bills are already high enough. Over the past year, I have been lobbying against this disastrous new plan that would have dire financial impact to residents in Orange County and throughout the state.

We can’t afford any new tax, fee or scheme by the government to take more of our hard earned dollars. Many people are having to decide between putting gas in their cars and buying groceries.

The CPUC appears to have heard the message.

Last week the agency came up with a new proposal that cuts usage rates up to 7 cents per kilowatt-hour, saving more than $28 a month. This rate structure has a 20-day public comment period and comes up for a vote on May 9.

The original income-based plan was contained in the 2022 budget trailer bill AB 205, which authorized the CPUC to create the income-based fixed charge.

Together with the Senate Republican Caucus, I wrote a letter to the CPUC in April 2023 asking the agency to reject this rate hike. This was followed up with a letter seven months later to Gov. Gavin Newsom detailing bipartisan concerns over the income-based plan.

We also attempted to repeal AB 205, but that was unsuccessful. Now I have coauthored a new bill to repeal income-based charges on electric bills to make sure this will never happen in the future. Please support our efforts. I will keep you informed about this issue in future emails.

You can read about the CPUC’s new proposal here: https://shorturl.at/wFJR3

Sincerely,

JANET NGUYEN
Senator, Thirty-Sixth District
California State Legislature

But but but the title thread says it was already signed by the governor…….

 

[SANZC02]

But but but the title thread says it was already signed by the governor…….

They should probably correct the title, oddly I got that update in an email today 4/2/2025 at 16:19 PST.

 

[defcon888]

We had solar and 3 PWs in San Diego. Electricity was so expensive it made sense. The system paid for itself in 7 years including the PWs. Power here is so cheap I don’t think it pencils out. I’ll wait until I have 6 months of bills to determine if I will add solar. I do plan on adding some batteries to carry the peak time and to act as backup for a power outage.

We are building a house out there and we figure it is cheaper to get it while they are building rather than waiting for it later.

Thanks for the info....very valuable. I don't expect to pay NOTHING, I just expect to pay a lot less than California, and from your information, I think we will.

 

[hgpayne]

We are building a house out there and we figure it is cheaper to get it while they are building rather than waiting for it later.

Thanks for the info....very valuable. I don't expect to pay NOTHING, I just expect to pay a lot less than California, and from your information, I think we will.

We built a house too and solar was a $24k option. I looked at the system they were going to add and I could get the same system from Tesla for around $9k. We decided against the option.

I still haven’t figured the AZ solar out yet. It looks like they charge you based on whatever plan you pick but only credit export at 2-3¢/kwh. If that’s the case batteries are a must have.

 

[HaveBlue]

Thanks for the update! I edited the title.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!

Income-based utility rate hike headed for defeat
Dear Friends,

The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has proposed a limited flat rate for residential electricity after I pressured them to stop plans to impose an income-based structure that would cause most bills to skyrocket.

Electric bills are already high enough. Over the past year, I have been lobbying against this disastrous new plan that would have dire financial impact to residents in Orange County and throughout the state.

We can’t afford any new tax, fee or scheme by the government to take more of our hard earned dollars. Many people are having to decide between putting gas in their cars and buying groceries.

The CPUC appears to have heard the message.

Last week the agency came up with a new proposal that cuts usage rates up to 7 cents per kilowatt-hour, saving more than $28 a month. This rate structure has a 20-day public comment period and comes up for a vote on May 9.

The original income-based plan was contained in the 2022 budget trailer bill AB 205, which authorized the CPUC to create the income-based fixed charge.

Together with the Senate Republican Caucus, I wrote a letter to the CPUC in April 2023 asking the agency to reject this rate hike. This was followed up with a letter seven months later to Gov. Gavin Newsom detailing bipartisan concerns over the income-based plan.

We also attempted to repeal AB 205, but that was unsuccessful. Now I have coauthored a new bill to repeal income-based charges on electric bills to make sure this will never happen in the future. Please support our efforts. I will keep you informed about this issue in future emails.

You can read about the CPUC’s new proposal here: https://shorturl.at/wFJR3

Sincerely,

JANET NGUYEN
Senator, Thirty-Sixth District
California State Legislature

That's positive news. Now they need to repeal NEM 3.0 and revert back to NEM 2.0. Solar installs have tanked as there is no incentive to sell (or store excess) solar generation back to the grid.

 

[HaveBlue]

Do they give you kwh credit if you over generate or is it a sell back buy back scenario?

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