N.J. bill would assess fee on electric cars by the mile ......

[ESTRUCK]

EV TRACKING in New Jersey being tested

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[Donald Stanfield]

There's the scumbag politician seeing how he can reach his hands deeper in your pockets.

 

[ads75]

I hope they don't expect to charge mileage for all of the toll roads NJ has (Parkway, Turnpike, AC Expressway). Tolls pay for road up keep. The plan looks like its double dipping EVs.

 

[ESTRUCK]

I think that as EV's outsell ICE vehicles all the states will follow to collect lost revenue from fuel taxes at the pump.
NJ seems to be a pilot program offering testers $100 to participate in the pilot program. I hope nobody bites.

 

[virgnia_rivian]

There will be some stupid ideas and some decent ideas as states try to eventually replace the gas tax. The revenue has to come from somewhere. It will be a bumpy road (pun intended) for some while this is ironed out.

 

[Siva]

I think we should pay our fair share of road tax, but they are demanding more than fair share. I pay $200 flat fee in Ohio and I don't even drive 4000 miles a year

 

[SlaterGS]

I think we should pay our fair share of road tax, but they are demanding more than fair share. I pay $200 flat fee in Ohio and I don't even drive 4000 miles a year

Looks like you and I have the same situation. Leaf in Ohio with low mileage and annoyed with the current implementation.

 

[electruck]

I hope they don't expect to charge mileage for all of the toll roads NJ has (Parkway, Turnpike, AC Expressway). Tolls pay for road up keep. The plan looks like its double dipping EVs.

Gas taxes also pay for road upkeep yet you still pay tolls on the toll roads when driving an ICE vehicle. The double dipping, if you choose to view it that way, is not new to EVs. I view tolls as more of a supplemental tax with targeted application much like my property tax is composed of separate taxes supporting city, county, and school district.

 

[Zoidz]

Pennsylvania politicians have floated this idea, but I don't think it has gone anywhere yet.

 

[ads75]

Gas taxes also pay for road upkeep yet you still pay tolls on the toll roads when driving an ICE vehicle. The double dipping, if you choose to view it that way, is not new to EVs. I view tolls as more of a supplemental tax with targeted application much like my property tax is composed of separate taxes supporting city, county, and school district.

I can understand that, but how will they account for miles driven in other states? Or does the owner have to track those?

 

[Max]

Best tax incentive is not taking it. It sounds like Feds give the tax incentives to the manufacturers and states will take it from owners. I am thinking walk and bike more before they find a way to tax that too. The day of $0.002 cents per step tax is coming. Piggy back rides may be the new tax avoidance method.

 

[electruck]

I can understand that, but how will they account for miles driven in other states? Or does the owner have to track those?

Or maybe we just don't worry about that at all for passenger vehicles. There are technology solutions that could be implemented to solve for that if necessary but at additional cost, complexity, and with privacy concerns but which may still be necessary - especially for commercial/fleet vehicles (consider how many rental vehicles around the country are registered in FL). There really isn't a "perfect" system. Flat fees don't account for high/low mileage drivers. Even gas taxes don't differentiate between high/low efficiency combustion engines.

 

[runwithscissors]

I can understand that, but how will they account for miles driven in other states? Or does the owner have to track those?

They'll use the iron fist of Gov't to force manufacturers to report since we can't be trusted. No way will they give up that easy revenue for their coffers.

 

[mitchelmb]

Good luck with tracking mileage. A flat fee would be better. And how about putting that money into improving the charging infrastructure within the state?

 

[ESTRUCK]

I can understand that, but how will they account for miles driven in other states? Or does the owner have to track those?

From what was on the CBS news in NY this morning a plug-in device tracks all the mileage and and that device needs to be sent to your local DMV monthly or it might be integrated into the infotainment and be sent via wifi. BIG BROTHER STUFF

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