Idle fee hate

[R1S-DMPerformance]

Yes while he parks at the pump and leaving the vehicle while going into the travel plaza and spends 20 minutes eating lunch etc.

Meanwhile blocking the only spot I can easily get in and pull through with my truck and RV trailer.
But there is no fee so it is OK.

Again, wishful thinking and narrow example that we aren't talking about nor does it apply.

Read the post again, im not against idle fees when applied for the correct purpose.

And u owe me a Looking fee too, and a second fee for having to reread it

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[Gen(R3)Xer]

In my area you’re charged a fee of $0.50 if you go over 80%. Even if the charging station isn’t completely full. I think this is BS.

If you can charge at home do it. It will save you a ton of money. Of course when you’re on a trip that’s another story. Look for hotels that have Level 2 charging. I’m pretty sure those don’t have idle fees.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

Idle fee love here.

I've seen too many EA stations with vehicles sitting for *HOURS* after they have finished charging.

Sure, maybe a "no idle fee unless the station is at least half full" rule would be nice - but having no idle fee just encourages bad behavior. When you're done charging, move your frickin' vehicle.

(And yes, I've been hit with an invalid idle fee at a RAN - my R1T stopped charging before it hit my target %, and I was too far away to get back to it before the idle fee grace period ended, so I got a couple $ idle fee. But that was a RAN problem, not an "I was an asshole and purposefully overstayed my charge session" problem.)

Teslas idle fees only take effect when they are necessary. They are not just arbitrary like the ones on RAN.

No one is arguing to abolish idle fees, simply to apply them when necessary. As their invention was for the sole purpose to encourage promptly freeing charging stalls for people who need to charge. Idle fees weren't created just for the sake of idle fees existing for no reason, such as when all stalls are empty except yours.

 

[SwampNut]

I recently had my truck parked in a V4 stall at the Tesla Diner for 2.5 hours. No fees. As it should be. We once used a RAN at a mall on a trip, and had to cut shopping shorter than desired to make sure we, as the only vehicle using it, didn't block the swarm of Rivians that would surely fill all spaces as soon as my charge was full. Very stupid.

 

[mkhuffman]

Teslas idle fees only take effect when they are necessary. They are not just arbitrary like the ones on RAN.

No one is arguing to abolish idle fees, simply to apply them when necessary. As their invention was for the sole purpose to encourage promptly freeing charging stalls for people who need to charge. Idle fees weren't created just for the sake of idle fees existing for no reason, such as when all stalls are empty except yours.

You didn't answer my question: how do you know a wave of travelers didn't come up at the same time, desperate for a charge, but your truck was sitting there fully charged? How do you know this didn't happen?

Have you heard about chaos theory? The fact is it can be empty for hours and then for some weird reason, 10 people decide they need to charge. You can't predict it.

You should be considerate and move your truck when it is it done. If you don't, you should pay an idle fee. And I think the fee should be huge.

And you towed a ICE truck out of a charging space with your X? Man, you really are looking for a fight, aren't you?

I bet you complain about everything, always looking for how someone else wronged you. Well in this case, you are the one at fault, not Rivian.

 

[SwampNut]

You didn't answer my question: how do you know a wave of travelers didn't come up at the same time, desperate for a charge, but your truck was sitting there fully charged? How do you know this didn't happen?

Logic and reasoning.

 

[mkhuffman]

Logic and reasoning.

Chaos is normal

 

[NY_Rob]

Pot stirred...

 

[SwampNut]

Chaos is normal

Not in the way you describe, as observed after over 100 charger visits over the years.

Also, the fees then would apply, and you'd be notified. Logical. Reasonable.

 

[SwampNut]

Pot stirred...

You misspelled "shit in and a grenade tossed into it."

 

[NY_Rob]

You misspelled "shit in and a grenade tossed into it."

I was taking the high road, you know.. for the children!

 

[mkhuffman]

Not in the way you describe, as observed after over 100 charger visits over the years.

Also, the fees then would apply, and you'd be notified. Logical. Reasonable.

Yeah, but then he will get up in the morning, go out to his truck, see it is the only one there and then get pissed off because he got an idle fee.

We are just going to have to agree to disagree on this. I have been the one who has pulled up to a row of a-holes, hogging all the charging spaces, and I really needed a charge. In that situation there was no idle fee. And that is what you get. (It was when I worked at a previous job, and the spaces were in my office building.)

They had no idea that I really needed to charge, because they were not there. They got there first, so they get to hog the space as long as they want. Right?

It would make me so angry I felt like towing all of them out of the garage, like he did to that ICE truck.

There are entitled a-holes all over the place, and the only way to get them to stop hogging charging spaces is to charge big idle fees. Huge.

 

[R1S-DMPerformance]

You didn't answer my question: how do you know a wave of travelers didn't come up at the same time, desperate for a charge, but your truck was sitting there fully charged? How do you know this didn't happen?

Have you heard about chaos theory? The fact is it can be empty for hours and then for some weird reason, 10 people decide they need to charge. You can't predict it.

You should be considerate and move your truck when it is it done. If you don't, you should pay an idle fee. And I think the fee should be huge.

And you towed a ICE truck out of a charging space with your X? Man, you really are looking for a fight, aren't you?

I bet you complain about everything, always looking for how someone else wronged you. Well in this case, you are the one at fault, not Rivian.

I needed to charge and that was the only available spot for charging. That vehicle doesnt belong there, as there are plenty of other available parking stalls that dont have a charger.

There is nothing wrong with politely relocating their vehicle a few feet away. It could been actually towed by a towing company, and that would have been expensive for them. Instead, their truck was ready to go when they went back to it. So they should actually be happy, no towing fee

No, not complaining about everything, but you do seem to get everything backwards. Who do you think is actually trying to pick a fight? The person that blocked the only available charging stall with an ice vehicle on purpose, or the pragmatic one who simply removed it so they could charge? Its not like if their vehicle was keyed or intentionally damaged.
There is no anger, no hate, no anything, simply doing what needs to be done under those circumstances.

Why is it that you would find it so offensive if you found your vehicle partially relocated if you intentionally used your vehicle to bully someone else?

That's just called a failed prank. And the only thing some people would feel is their ego bruised, cuz their prank, well, didn't work. And if they want to Start a fight over that, well then they are even more dumb than expected.

 

[SwampNut]

In that situation there was no idle fee.

So you're talking about a totally non-related station with no fees ever? Good job. That's a different thread.

 

[Time2Roll]

Again, wishful thinking and narrow example that we aren't talking about nor does it apply.

Read the post again, im not against idle fees when applied for the correct purpose.

And u owe me a Looking fee too, and a second fee for having to reread it

You can re-read that my comment was related to another person that I quoted. Nothing to do with your story. If it is to be all about you, I suggest it is best to start a new thread.

Go ahead and send me that refund like Rivian did for you.

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