Donald Stanfield
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This makes Rivian S-0--0-N seem minor in comparison. Sure you'll get the shell of your car but you won't actually get any of the features that are standard on pretty much every basic ass car today.
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Like text message integration?
Donald Stanfield
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More like cruise control. I consider that a much more essential feature because texting isn't a core feature of driving, but cruise control certainly is.
DaveA
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Holding back production for a feature most people only use on road trips a few times a year would be silly. Meeting the production start is more important. A delay wouldn’t be good as this date has been reiterated for over 18 months. I’m guessing it’s all part of the ADAS system that just hasn’t been finalized. The 4D radar they are using is a first so I’m cutting Fisker a little slack here.
R1Sky Business
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SooNer.....that's funny ?
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R1Sky Business
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No 12V plugs either....to be added in late 2023
Dark-Fx
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Rivian doesn't have cruise control either, unless you are in Tow mode.
Donald Stanfield
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Adaptive cruise IS cruise control.
Dark-Fx
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I'm excited to find out what features they are shipping the vehicle with that are going to break for a significant population and take years to get fixed.
What options they decide to take off my order to ship the vehicle without, then send them back to the drawing board for a year.
What noises all of them are going to develop in the drivetrain.
What bolts weren't torqued properly at the factory.
What trim pieces are going to be replaced because they cause excessive wind noise.
How many times it takes for service to get the alignment right.
How fragile the solar roof is when someone tries to sit on it.
Did I miss any? If Fisker's primary problems are just not having the complete software set at delivery, I'll be ecstatic. Rivian has added significantly to their software stack since I've got my R1T. If the driving dynamics are there, I can tolerate some amount of issues, just like I have with my Rivian. At least Fisker's vehicles are being built by an established manufacturer. I have a little more confidence that Magna is going to get things right out of the gate.
In other news, Rivian has promised me my truck back on Monday.
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DJG
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Lucid buyers paid $160k for a vehicle without driver assistance features at launch either, so I don't think it's too controversial, assuming it's merely software. However, the $5k non-refundable deposit bit does throw a bit of a wrench into it being totally above board...
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Quattro Powers
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I test drove a Fisker Karma when it was initially released. While the styling wasn’t bad (coke bottle curves), it really felt like a kit car. I’m sure the Magna built car will be better.
mkg3
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All the traditional review publications have noted that Magna produced Jaguar I-Pace being much better built than other F-Pace (but by Jaguar).
No doubt that Ocean will be better built than the original Karma.
No doubt that Ocean will be better built than the original Karma.
av8or
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Does anybody know how fisker plans on servicing the vehicles? I’m sure there will be plenty of growing pains like Rivian. Are they doing their own or contracting it out?
Dark-Fx
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Partnered with Bridgestone for service. They are also going to do mobile service. No idea how things will play out but it's not going to deter me unless I actually can't get service. Rivian's service delays have gotten terrible in my area.
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