Discount Tire Selection Beware

[andisimose]

received my first nail in the sidewall this week. Our discount tire has the pucks and certified to do the change. But no tires in stock.

I was surprised when he offered me 8 different choices for the 22s to replace my OEM tires.

come to find out they have a lower load rating listed as compatible. So we were seeing all the XL 115H options and not the HL 116H that i currently have installed. Riv service said to stay with the later.

just a psa to be aware of what tire you’re being sold

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[NmbrsNvrLie]

Just dealt with this myself and learned more than I wanted to know about tires. I got a nail in 1 but also was already down to only 4/32 on the stock Pirellis after only 15k miles.

The OEM Pirellis are the only tire currently sold with a 116 load rating, but I decided to replace all of mine with the General Grabber HTS 60s which have a 115 load rating (only 70 lbs less load per tire), which is what comes stock on the Lighting Platinum. I talked to a number of different reps at different tire sellers and had multiple people do the math based on the Rivian axle weights who told me I could safely run these tires. They are also a harder compound (so I’m hoping they will wear down slower than the Pirellis), but have a lower max speed of 115 MPH (which I have no intention of testing anyways) than the Pirellis. Not to mention the Grabbers are $230 per tire as compared to the $500 Pirellis which have lasted only 12 months. The Grabbers also appear to have been specifically designed for the weight of the Lightning and efficiency.

Both the Pirellis and Grabbers were on nationwide back order at many places, but Tire Rack.com had the Grabbers and I just had them shipped to Discount Tire and installed yesterday.

You are correct that the in store reps had first thrown out alternative options which only have a 111 load rating, which seemed like a bad idea.

 

[BrentInCO]

Just dealt with this myself and learned more than I wanted to know about tires. I got a nail in 1 but also was already down to only 4/32 on the stock Pirellis after only 15k miles.

The OEM Pirellis are the only tire currently sold with a 116 load rating, but I decided to replace all of mine with the General Grabber HTS 60s which have a 115 load rating (only 70 lbs less load per tire), which is what comes stock on the Lighting Platinum. I talked to a number of different reps at different tire sellers and had multiple people do the math based on the Rivian axle weights who told me I could safely run these tires. They are also a harder compound (so I’m hoping they will wear down slower than the Pirellis), but have a lower max speed of 115 MPH (which I have no intention of testing anyways) than the Pirellis. Not to mention the Grabbers are $230 per tire as compared to the $500 Pirellis which have lasted only 12 months. The Grabbers also appear to have been specifically designed for the weight of the Lightning and efficiency.

Both the Pirellis and Grabbers were on nationwide back order at many places, but Tire Rack.com had the Grabbers and I just had them shipped to Discount Tire and installed yesterday.

You are correct that the in store reps had first thrown out alternative options which only have a 111 load rating, which seemed like a bad idea.

These are also 22”s?

 

[NmbrsNvrLie]

Yes. 275/50/22, same as the Pirellis.

Depending on what website your messing around with, these don't always pop up when you enter the vehicle type as a Rivian, but can be found when you search by tire size.

Besides just the Pirellis already wearing down, I'm a little OCD and decided to do replace all of mine. Was only $1,100 after install and tax.

 

[andisimose]

You are correct that the in store reps had first thrown out alternative options which only have a 111 load rating, which seemed like a bad idea.

Yes, it what gave me pause. The ratings were all over the place and since I’m only replacing a single tire I had to step back and take a look at all of it. The rep was no help. Haha

 

[NmbrsNvrLie]

I always get good service from my Discount Tire, but most of the people working there are just over 18 and just throwing out what the computer tells them. I spent 3 days trying to source alternatives. A few older reps at other tire retailers did the math on the load ratings compared to Rivian's axle weight and all said they wouldn't think twice about putting the Grabbers on if it was theirs.

 

[Riviot]

Funny... the experience has been the opposite for a lot of us using 115 and trying to get Discount Tire or other big box stores to install. They usually refuse because it doesn't align with OEM load index.

 

[WSea]

Just dealt with this myself and learned more than I wanted to know about tires. I got a nail in 1 but also was already down to only 4/32 on the stock Pirellis after only 15k miles.

The OEM Pirellis are the only tire currently sold with a 116 load rating, but I decided to replace all of mine with the General Grabber HTS 60s which have a 115 load rating (only 70 lbs less load per tire), which is what comes stock on the Lighting Platinum. I talked to a number of different reps at different tire sellers and had multiple people do the math based on the Rivian axle weights who told me I could safely run these tires. They are also a harder compound (so I’m hoping they will wear down slower than the Pirellis), but have a lower max speed of 115 MPH (which I have no intention of testing anyways) than the Pirellis. Not to mention the Grabbers are $230 per tire as compared to the $500 Pirellis which have lasted only 12 months. The Grabbers also appear to have been specifically designed for the weight of the Lightning and efficiency.

Both the Pirellis and Grabbers were on nationwide back order at many places, but Tire Rack.com had the Grabbers and I just had them shipped to Discount Tire and installed yesterday.

You are correct that the in store reps had first thrown out alternative options which only have a 111 load rating, which seemed like a bad idea.

Curious what Discount charged for install with tires from TireRack? Any balancing/vibration issues post install?

 

[Dark-Fx]

come to find out they have a lower load rating listed as compatible. So we were seeing all the XL 115H options and not the HL 116H that i currently have installed. Riv service said to stay with the later.

My truck has 115H rated tires on it directly from Rivian, and when they replaced the fronts under warranty last year, put the same thing on. This was after it was already known they had the 116H option on newer vehicles. I'd say it probably doesn't make much difference since they both are well over the axle rating on the truck.

 

[andisimose]

Curious what Discount charged for install with tires from TireRack? Any balancing/vibration issues post install?

Discount owns tire rack so they didn’t care I brought a tire. It was like $30 for install etc here

 

[goldburger]

Many people on this forum would love to find a discount tires that is willing to install a 115 load index tire lol. Most follow the specs to the letter!

 

[nfrank]

Did they offer you the Michelin's that are rumored to come out soon?

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/new-michelin-defender-ltx-m-s2-coming-soon.15077/

 

[goldburger]

Did they offer you the Michelin's that are rumored to come out soon?

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/new-michelin-defender-ltx-m-s2-coming-soon.15077/

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[SeaGeo]

The OEM Pirellis are the only tire currently sold with a 116 load rating,

I can't find a 116 for 22s, but I have found a 275/60/R20 116 from Hankook for people wanting a winter tire that isn't a heavy LT. It works out to the same tire diameter as the 21s and 22s so would avoid needing to do a software swap for speed/etc if people buy a 20" wheel.

 

[NmbrsNvrLie]

OEM Pirellis are the only 116 option for the 22s:

You can also see more info on the speed and load rating for the Grabbers below now:

There are some more 115 Load Rating 22 options coming out in the near future from Michelin, but this is what's out there. The Grabbers also have a 50K Mile Warranty compared to zero for the Pirellis.

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