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Also useful for my winter tire range calculating until they update my diameter. Thanks
 

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I’m so happy they came out with the Standard+ battery and dropped the price to $74,900.

This how we get more Rivians into the hands of consumers.

Rivian all day long over Kia

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I’m so happy they came out with the Standard+ battery.

This how we get more Rivians into the hands of consumers.
I think it makes a lot of sense for the people who aren't going to use their Rivians for long trips. Rivian has all the data about how much battery their customers are using on a day-to-day basis. I typically don't use more than about 60% of my large pack on a worst case day, even in the winter time. Average day is probably closer to 35%.
 

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Are the standard and standard+ battery packs software locked with an option to pay later to increase to large pack range?
 

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Are the standard and standard+ battery packs software locked with an option to pay later to increase to large pack range?
If they are, I would not count on Rivian ever offering that if they don't explicitly say it before you purchase.
 

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Whew. That's quite the jump from large to max, 48 miles for 10 grand.
 

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Just a small difference in terms of usable capacity between the standard+ and the large pack. The standard+ is a fantastic value. Being able to keep it below $80k and with reasonable driving range should help out a lot of people!
 

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Doing a little math, Rivian estimates the following efficiency:

Max: 2.83 miles per kWh
Large: 2.68 miles per kWh
Standard+: 2.60 miles per kWh
Standard: 2.54 miles per kWh

I’m confused as the smaller the battery, the worse the efficiency gets, and by a pretty significant margin from max to standard.
 
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Doing a little math, Rivian estimates the following efficiency:

Max: 2.83 miles per kWh
Large: 2.68 miles per kWh
Standard+: 2.60 miles per kWh
Standard: 2.54 miles per kWh

I’m confused as the smaller the battery, the worse the efficiency gets, and by a pretty significant margin from max to standard.
Seems to lend credence to theories that the battery capacity might not be the only differences in the vehicles. Should it really cost nearly 20 grand more only for an additional 35kWh?
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The real question is whether less battery capacity lessens the load on the cooling system such that Rivian will open up the charging curve on them a bit. The Taycan refresh looks to be around 95 kWh usable (yes, 800V) but able to do 300 kW through 65% SoC. Kia is doing 240 kW on their ~70 kWh usable packs. It sure seems it's not a capacity problem, but a cooling problem for Rivian. If the Standard/Standard+ packs could rip 200-225 kW for longer than 15 min (what my Large pack will do), they could actually be a good deal for non-towers.
 

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Seems to lend credence to theories that the battery capacity might not be the only differences in the vehicles. Should it really cost nearly 20 grand more only for an additional 35kWh?
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Yeah, surely there is something…right? Either way, the standard+ battery is a huge win for buyers. If I didn’t love my QM R1T so much, I’d configure a standard+ R1S today.

My last 2 BEVs prior to the T had low 200’s for range and it really just wasn’t sufficient for what I needed. 260-270 was borderline. Having 300+ might be a bit arbitrary, but it’s an important mental milestone for many buyers.
 

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Yeah, surely there is something…right? Either way, the standard+ battery is a huge win for buyers. If I didn’t love my QM R1T so much, I’d configure a standard+ R1S today.

My last 2 BEVs prior to the T had low 200’s for range and it really just wasn’t sufficient for what I needed. 260-270 was borderline. Having 300+ might be a bit arbitrary, but it’s an important mental milestone for many buyers.
I thought it was already confirmed that the battery pack isn't the only difference when you configure a Max instead of Large? Things like more efficient (and way more expensive) inverters being used when you choose max pack.
 

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Is Rivian using LFP batteries for standard pack? Then price will be lower….. but I will never buy an EV with LFP…. EVs with LFP batteries are disastrous because it cannot be recycled and it will have 40-50% range reductions during winter…
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