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Q4 2024 Gross Profit of $170M for Rivian

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Fuck yea! Never doubted them no matter what the shorts and fud'ers had to say.
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My guess at this point for the reduced projection is to do with R2 retooling and hope they surprise with R2 by Q4
 
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Im not expert, but I think it may be trouble tomorrow. Folks will focus on the predicted YoY decline in sales.

I’m happy to be wrong here!
They are forecasting some negative impacts to the EV tax credits going away. 8k vehicles in Q1, 14k in Q2 and a one month shutdown to prepare for R2 to ship in 1st 1/2 of '26. Planning to stay full-year profitability.
 
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Hoping this is where things turn around for the stocks (and Rivian too)... got a bunch of stock sitting at a 43-44 average. Would love to see 100+!
 

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RJ statement in the investor call:
-> 50% reduction in parts count between R1 and R2.
-> 95% of all supplier contracts defined for R2
 

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The cost cuts are great and all.

But, zero growth in deliveries for 2025?

WTH, RJ?
 

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Im not expert, but I think it may be trouble tomorrow. Folks will focus on the predicted YoY decline in sales.

I’m happy to be wrong here!
The nice thing about the options is I can only loose the premium max so was just a gamble before earnings. I still just started buying shares and will accumulate little by little all along the way for this next 1.5yrs until the R2 comes out which should move the stock.
I already made my 15x on Tesla since buying shares little by little starting 9yrs ago.
Now it's time to accumulate Rivian shares while it's in a lull and going sideways. And just wait until they eventually consistently become profitable and hopefully make another 10x.
 

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Looks like 10% positive gross margin is due in large part to $299 million in regulatory credits, software sales (Connect+), and used car sales. Auto gross margin excluding credits and services was -13% - a big improvement from -30% in the previous 3 quarters.
 

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The nice thing about the options is I can only loose the premium max so was just a gamble before earnings. I still just started buying shares and will accumulate little by little all along the way for this next 1.5yrs until the R2 comes out which should move the stock.
I already made my 15x on Tesla since buying shares little by little starting 9yrs ago.
Now it's time to accumulate Rivian shares while it's in a lull and going sideways. And just wait until they eventually consistently become profitable and hopefully make another 10x.
Yeah if you believe they will make it, it’s great time. Right now the stock faces consistent resistance at about $14 with a floor around $10. Nothing moves it above or below (even VW $5B) for long. The real catalyst will be R2 with sales on upswing. Just have to have the guts to build a position now.
 

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The cost cuts are great and all.

But, zero growth in deliveries for 2025?

WTH, RJ?
I wouldn't blame RJ, but the geopolitical circus that's making BEVs less compelling to people who aren't willing to take on risk.

He's being practical.
I think he's being responsible. If he'd posted a prediction they'd sell MORE this year, people would be calling him crazy cuckoopuffs.
 

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I wouldn't blame RJ, but the geopolitical circus that's making BEVs less compelling to people who aren't willing to take on risk.

He's being practical.
I think he's being responsible. If he'd posted a prediction they'd sell MORE this year, people would be calling him crazy cuckoopuffs.
I don’t think that is correct. Wall Street expected growth so, meeting that expectation would not have been seen as crazy. Granted, the expected growth was modest. But that’s why the reduced forecast is surprising.
 

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The only reason they made profit is because of environmental regulatory credit and SW services. Without the them, they did not make profit for vehicle sales.

From their shareholder letter:

Drive towards profitability
• Achieved $170 million positive gross profit in the fourth quarter 2024, with $110 million from the automotive segment and $60 million from the software and services segment
• Software and services segment-level gross margin was 28% in the fourth quarter 2024
• Fourth quarter revenue increased $419 million year-over-year, partially supported by a $260 million increase in automotive regulatory credit sales
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