202? Rivian R3 vs 2025 IONIQ 5 XRT model w/ Native NACS port

[Electron]

Here's some juicy news fresh off the skillet.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1144325_2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-price

The IONIQ 5 will now have a XRT model (w/ NACS), which made me immediately think of the R3 (that'll have the NACS port too). They're different sizes as the IONIQ 5 is much larger (more of a Model Y competitor) but for them being off roadish/adventure focused is what made me think of this comparison between the IONIQ 5XRT and R3. Glad to see some great competition.

• The 2025 Hyundai IONIQ 5 sports bigger batteries, more range, and a Tesla NACS charge port.
• Will be made in Georgia. (Fully eligible for the Tax Credit.)
• Will have NACS standard by Q4 of 2024. The first to the punch.

Good on both HMG (Hyundai Motor Group; KIA & Genesis) and Rivian for being the leaders with going NACS. CCS really needs to go away, it's clunky and terrible.

I'm really looking forward to seeing these two models and how they stack up. The IONIQ 5 is a fantastic and versatile platform as we've seen so far. That IONIQ 5N is something special. I encourage everyone to go test drive one, it's next level and not surprising at all to see it winning all the major awards right now.

NACS on the IONIQ 5. I hope they swap it to the other side before final production.

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[McLovin]

I wonder if NACS and CCS will be the Beta and VHS of this generation. Of course, if it is, the deciding factor will be the same as it always is:

which charging standard will the Porn industry adopt?

 

[jjswan33]

I think a 2025 R3 is optimistic thinking.

Also Ioniq 5 is much bigger than an R3 will be.

 

[SANZC02]

You need a third choice (no preference).

Currently regardless of the charge port used for CCS charging you will need an adapter somewhere. If you have a NACS port, you will need a CCS to NACS adapter for any session not at a Tesla Supercharger. If you have a CCS port you need a NACS to CCS adapter for the Tesla Superchargers.

Regardless of the port you have the same access to the same chargers, just depends on the port/adapter you prefer. The native NACS port still will not work on V1/V2 Superchargers or any SC charger not open the NACS.

In the future when other networks start installing NACS cables it might change my preference but the use of the adapter is no big deal. I have a J1772 cable at my house and use an adapter to charge my Tesla. ??

 

[dleepnw]

Here's some juicy news fresh off the skillet.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1144325_2025-hyundai-ioniq-5-price

The IONIQ 5 will now have a XRT model (w/ NACS), which made me immediately think of the R3 (that'll have the NACS port too). Glad to see some great competition.

• The 2025 Hyundai IONIQ 5 sports bigger batteries, more range, and a Tesla NACS charge port.
• Will be made in Georgia. (Fully eligible for the Tax Credit.)
• Will have NACS standard by Q4 of 2024. The first to the punch.

Good on both HMG (Hyundai Motor Group; KIA & Genesis) and Rivian for being the leaders with going NACS. CCS really needs to go away, it's clunky and terrible.

I'm really looking forward these two models and see how they stack up. The IONIQ 5 is a fantastic and versatile platform as we've seen so far. That IONIQ 5N is something special. I encourage everyone to go test drive one, it's next level and not surprising at all for it be winning all the major awards right now.

Test drove it. 100% agree, its insane and is a glimpse into the future of EVs.

Makes me even more excited for the R3X. The R3X will surely creates its own category, but Rivian should also take some notes ?

 

[iansriv]

I saw a Hyundai when they first came out in the 80s, and I haven't been able to unsee it.

 

[Electron]

I wonder if NACS and CCS will be the Beta and VHS of this generation. Of course, if it is, the deciding factor will be the same as it always is:

which charging standard will the Porn industry adopt?

NACS is way sexier than CCS. Not even close.

I think a 2025 R3 is optimistic thinking.

Also Ioniq 5 is much bigger than an R3 will be.

I can't disagree with that. I'm here hoping that we even make it into 2025 with the R2 without major set backs from a poor Q3 and Q4. I try to remain optimistic, while being realistic. ?

True the IONIQ 5 is more of a Model Y competitor, however from the perspective of it looking similar with the hatch design and both being more of an adventurous model in the line up, it seemed fitting.

You need a third choice (no preference).

Currently regardless of the charge port used for CCS charging you will need an adapter somewhere. If you have a NACS port, you will need a CCS to NACS adapter for any session not at a Tesla Supercharger. If you have a CCS port you need a NACS to CCS adapter for the Tesla Superchargers.

Regardless of the port you have the same access to the same chargers, just depends on the port/adapter you prefer. The native NACS port still will not work on V1/V2 Superchargers or any SC charger not open the NACS.

In the future when other networks start installing NACS cables it might change my preference but the use of the adapter is no big deal. I have a J1772 cable at my house and use an adapter to charge my Tesla. ??

Noted and added. Thanks.

That's true about the adapter in those cases, but if I had NACS native, I'd go NACS any day of the week over CCS.

Having options is great and I personally don't have a problem with using adapters, it's just that I really don't like CCS. Just my opinion.

To each their own.

Test drove it. 100% agree, its insane and has glimpses of the future of EVs.

Makes me even more excited for the R3X. The R3X will surely creates its own category, but Rivian should also take some notes ?

Competition is so great. It forces everyone to up their game and right now the IONIQ 5N is the one everyone needs to look up to for sure. It's ahead of its time and crushing it right now.

I saw a Hyundai when they first came out in the 80s, and I haven't been able to unsee it.

Sounds like your still stuck in the 80s. Come join us in 2024, it's pretty amazing.

 

[iansriv]

Sounds like your still stuck in the 80s. Come join us in 2024, it's pretty amazing.

I'm good here. You guys go on.

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[Dark-Fx]

NACS is just CCS with a different connector.

 

[zymolysis]

I saw a Hyundai when they first came out in the 80s, and I haven't been able to unsee it.

Join the 21st century. I remember Toyota in the 60s, and Honda in the 70s. That wouldn't stop me from buying a modern car from either.

 

[ForeverOnTheWaitlist]

I saw the Ioniq 5 XRT too. While the look isn't what I'd prefer, I'm mighty tempted. It checks all the other boxes for me. Even if I might need an occasional adapter, I'd much prefer an NACS port. Ground clearance had eliminated the existing model. Dirt roads and snow buildup make the many low clearance EV's tough for our town.

It may not have any of the latest steeply discounted lease offers, at least not right away but otherwise I can't wait.

 

[Electron]

I saw the Ioniq 5 XRT too. While the look isn't what I'd prefer, I'm mighty tempted. It checks all the other boxes for me. Even if I might need an occasional adapter, I'd much prefer an NACS port. Ground clearance had eliminated the existing model. Dirt roads and snow buildup make the many low clearance EV's tough for our town.

It may not have any of the latest steeply discounted lease offers, at least not right away but otherwise I can't wait.

It's nice to see HMG pushing out these off-roadyish models across some of their line up. Even the Palisade has a killer XRT variant that looks stunning. Sigh only if that was EV. We may see an XRT with the IONIQ 9.

I'm really excited about the aftermarket options and upgrades for the IONIQ 5 XRT and future models. An aftermarket lift kit mod would be great.

 

[azbill]

NACS is way sexier than CCS. Not even close.

There are exactly zero 800V NACS chargers in the US. The Hyundai and Kia vehicles need 800V to support their fast charging speeds. Not sexy at all.

 

[Electron]

There are exactly zero 800V NACS chargers in the US. The Hyundai and Kia vehicles need 800V to support their fast charging speeds. Not sexy at all.

That's a charger problem, not an EV problem.

Porsche and Lucid are also 800v along side HMG and they're just ahead of the curve.

Chargers need to catch up and they will.

It's far more valuable to be future ready vs being capped at the EV side and not being able to utilize future chargers.

I don't know about you, but being able to charge 10% to 80% in ~15-18mins is very sexy. (IONIQ 5, IONIQ 6 etc..)

Here's the new Chevy Silverado EV ripping it at 366 kW. That to me is sexy.

 

[azbill]

That's a charger problem, not an EV problem.

Porsche and Lucid are also 800v along side HMG and they're just ahead of the curve.

Chargers need to catch up and they will.

It's far more valuable to be future ready vs being capped at the EV side and not being able to utilize future chargers.

I don't know about you, but being able to charge 10% to 80% in ~15-18mins is very sexy. (IONIQ 5, IONIQ 6 etc..)

Here's the new Chevy Silverado EV ripping it at 366 kW. That to me is sexy.

I have a Hummer that will charge at the rate. Unfortunately on Superchargers it only gets to 185kw. Superchargers also do not hold high rates well in 90F+ temps, they drop to 120kw pretty fast.

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