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Anyone know what is the difference in Alexa Basic and Alexa Connected Commands
One of them will say it can't answer that. The other will give you a different wrong answer each time you ask.
 

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Anyone know what is the difference in Alexa Basic and Alexa Connected Commands
My guess is Alexa basic allows you to control some vehicle functions (set temperature, turn on heated seats, open frunk, etc.) and Alexa connected will allow you to interact with Alexa as you would any other Echo device (weather, timers, trivia, play games, etc.)
 

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I am a bit surprised at the reaction to this. Seems like every vehicle we've purchased over the last half dozen years or so came with a free trial subscription to their 'connection services', followed by the need to pay, if you wanted it. Our Jeep, the Audi before that, Porsche, BMW...all used that same model. I always assume these services are just like Sirius/XM, i.e., they give you a free trial and then you have to pony up.

Maybe it's because I've never owned a Tesla, so maybe this is more of a Tesla thing to be surprised that these services aren't forever free?
 

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You're all gonna pay it and you know it.... What's another $149? Time to move on
Interesting stance... With this economy and the subscription peak during covid, most streaming services have seen major pullbacks from consumers and had to supplement with ad based options to survive. Not sure if there are enough features coming to warrant $150/year. But, people always say that new suckers are born everyday. So, your stance may win out. Rivian's marketing and research must think so...
 

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Interesting stance... With this economy and the subscription peak during covid, most streaming services have seen major pullbacks from consumers and had to supplement with ad based options to survive. Not sure if there are enough features coming to warrant $150/year. But, people always say that new suckers are born everyday. So, your stance may win out. Rivian's marketing and research must think so...
Don't like the fee.

That said, dinner out for two at a decent restaurant is about the same cost as the annual subscription so really not a deal breaker.

Nothing is for free.
 

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I am a bit surprised at the reaction to this...
I don't think anyone's shocked it's happening, but being that Tesla offers more in their basic connectivity package for considerably less ($99/year), Rivian's pricing is raising a few eyebrows.

IIRC, the head of SW at Rivian did say they were going to allow our vehicles to connect with our phone's WiFi hotspot in the "soon" future. I'm hoping that will give us real-time traffic and routing on the big screen without a subscription. It seems kind of wasteful for some of us who don't really use any of the Connect+ services other then the nav to pay for vehicle connectivity when we already have mobile phones with us that are connected 24/7.
 

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I'm grandfathered into premium connectivity with Tesla so I'm just about as spoiled as they come.

But $149 per year for hotspot alone seems like a good deal to me. It's the same reason we buy things like Nabucasa, PlexPass, Wikipedia donations; "free" stuff you like, or just stuff you like, should be supported by putting up some cash. This is just another thing that helps Rivian become profitable, I'm in.
 

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Yes, it looks like they're nerfing our features if we don't pay. Tesla did the same thing several years ago. Cars used to come with free connectivity to do streaming music and video, satellite maps, and traffic visualization, but now you pay $10/mo or $100/year to do that. Unlike Rivian it seems, Tesla grandfathered in the earlier cars into having free premium connectivity for life.

It's strange that Connect+ is being announced like it's bringing these new features out that have actually always been available, but now you have to pay for them.
Yes I have lifetime connectivity on my Model 3 wish Rivian did the same for us early adopters
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