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I drive my 2022 R1T Quad on a 390 mile RT to/from my office once/week. Location is South Florida to/from the Orlando area. For testing purposes I’ve used the exact same roads, stops, and speeds (as much as I can control) for each trip. The segment north is 80% single lane state roads (mostly 72mph), and the trip home south is 95% route 95 (Mad Max style) interstate (mostly 75mph).

The truck came with the OEM 21” setup, which provided a great ride, quiet, zero vibration, and were very smooth. They wore perfectly evenly, but at 21,000 miles I was at 4/32 all around and I wanted to try something else.

The new Platinum’s are most of the above, but slightly less perfect in each category. Also, these wheels/tires feel noticeably heavy while driving, probably because they are in fact heavier (I don’t know exactly how much). This is primarily noticeable during slow speed turning, accelerating, and one petal stops from 70mph-0 while using only regen as braking force.

All of the driving was done as follows: 100% All Purpose mode, auto height, max regen, soft or moderate suspension, AC always on 72degrees, seat AC on max, stereo on, radar detector on. Majority using cruise control, and maybe 50% use of Highway Assist while on the southbound interstate leg. 21” tire pressure was 48-49psi cold, 20” was 53-54psi cold.

As you contemplate my results, realize that I chose a non-OEM tire size. The 285/60/20 is .6” larger in diameter and .5” wider than my 21” OEM. This puts the overall diameter between OEM 20” and 21” setups, so reprogramming the truck really isn’t necessary. My speedometer shows about 1% difference over 60 or so mph. Using my radar detector as a GPS speed readout, sometimes it reads the same as the dash shows, and sometimes it shows 1mph faster. With the 21’s this used to always match exactly.

Finally, we already know that all new tires are inherently less efficient then worn tires. I don’t know how much in terms of %, but I’m assuming that my efficiency will only improve as the Platinum’s wear.

Now the Data: I have accurately documented 10 round trips with the old 21” Pirellis, vs. 3 with the Platinum’s. I’ve also ‘normalized’ the Platinum data to reflect the approx. 1% change in revolutions/mile, affecting speed and odometer values.

Baseline: OEM 21” 2.09 m/kWh @60mph avg

Platinum’s on 20”: 1.93 m/kWh @59mph avg


Bottom Line: My new wheels/tires are 7.4% less efficient m/kWh than the OEM 21’s. This % is also confirmed as well by calculating the total kWh value used per segment; the Plat’s use 7.6% more kWh’s to take me the same speed and distance. This is acceptable to me and doesn’t change my routine very much. I used to charge up between 85-95% on both ends to make these trips, now I will probably always start with 95%. I love the new look and hope to get over 45k miles out of these, which is more than double what my OEM’s delivered.

Rivian R1T R1S Real efficiency data for Michelin Defender LTX Platinum 285/60/20 on EV Sportline R1000 wheels vs OEM 21" IMG_9369


Rivian R1T R1S Real efficiency data for Michelin Defender LTX Platinum 285/60/20 on EV Sportline R1000 wheels vs OEM 21" IMG_9370


Rivian R1T R1S Real efficiency data for Michelin Defender LTX Platinum 285/60/20 on EV Sportline R1000 wheels vs OEM 21" sni
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A couple of questions for clarification. Your OEM tire was 48 lbs + wheel. New Michelin's...I think your Platinums are E1 load rated or a 119? Is that correct? If so, as that is a 10 ply tire, you should probably air that up to 60 psi (Max for the E1 is 80). Also, the Michelin weighs 55 lbs for the tire so 7 more than the OEM, but you most likely saved weight with your new 20" rims as OEM's tend to be heavy, and a 21" most likely would be heavier than a 20". If you have the E1's, I would play with the air pressure and see how 60 or even 65 psi feels. Both should improve your efficiency.
 

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A couple of questions for clarification. Your OEM tire was 48 lbs + wheel. New Michelin's...I think your Platinums are E1 load rated or a 119? Is that correct? If so, as that is a 10 ply tire, you should probably air that up to 60 psi (Max for the E1 is 80). Also, the Michelin weighs 55 lbs for the tire so 7 more than the OEM, but you most likely saved weight with your new 20" rims as OEM's tend to be heavy, and a 21" most likely would be heavier than a 20". If you have the E1's, I would play with the air pressure and see how 60 or even 65 psi feels. Both should improve your efficiency.
Absolutely raise the tire pressure and redo the test drive OP. I would probably do 65 PSI.
 

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Thanks for sharing! Based on some quick math your 1% is right on the money. Probably not as important but tires from the factory will have between 10/32 and 12/32nd of tread depth. As they wear they become shorter requiring more revolutions per mile. Sorry I am bit of a tire nerd among other things. ?
 

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Regarding tire pressure for the new LT style tires; I've tried different pressures and have gone as high as 58 around town. I do not like the harsh ride at the high pressures, so brought it down to 54. According to Michelin and Discount Tire even 50psi for the LT satisfies the load rating of the OEM set (which is 116 but running at 48psi). Once I'm up to speed on the highway they heat up to 59.
 

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Regarding tire pressure for the new LT style tires; I've tried different pressures and have gone as high as 58 around town. I do not like the harsh ride at the high pressures, so brought it down to 54. According to Michelin and Discount Tire even 50psi for the LT satisfies the load rating of the OEM set (which is 116 but running at 48psi). Once I'm up to speed on the highway they heat up to 59.
Your tire pressure goes up 9psi on a highway run? That seems a big increase.
 
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Your tire pressure goes up 9psi on a highway run? That seems a big increase.
Nope, I'm starting at 54psi at 7am in the morning and later while at highway speed with sun and 95 degrees ambient the tire pressure rises to 59psi.
 

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Thanks for the post.
I also got the platinum last week after 29K on Pirelli AT 20". I had to use sign language to communicate with passengers but now it's so quiet that I can verbally have a proper conversations in the car.

A question to all tire/wheel gurus here - what is the math formula to determine the proper tire pressure for this LTX Platinum on R1S with the factory 20" rims?

Currently, it's at 48 psi (cold) and it does feel very wobbly which is only thing I don't like with this new rubber (yes, I knew it was coming at me since I shopped for quiet and smooth ride. Tire balancing is fine). In other words, in the "firm" suspension mode, I don't feel it's firm anymore. It's firmer than "moderate" but very small difference.

Thanks in advance!

(For your reference, the specs are in the pictures)

Rivian R1T R1S Real efficiency data for Michelin Defender LTX Platinum 285/60/20 on EV Sportline R1000 wheels vs OEM 21" 1719187254815-ti

Rivian R1T R1S Real efficiency data for Michelin Defender LTX Platinum 285/60/20 on EV Sportline R1000 wheels vs OEM 21" 1719187273191-fz
 

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Thanks for the post.
I also got the platinum last week after 29K on Pirelli AT 20". I had to use sign language to communicate with passengers but now it's so quiet that I can verbally have a proper conversations in the car.

A question to all tire/wheel gurus here - what is the math formula to determine the proper tire pressure for this LTX Platinum on R1S with the factory 20" rims?

Currently, it's at 48 psi (cold) and it does feel very wobbly which is only thing I don't like with this new rubber (yes, I knew it was coming at me since I shopped for quiet and smooth ride. Tire balancing is fine). In other words, in the "firm" suspension mode, I don't feel it's firm anymore. It's firmer than "moderate" but very small difference.

Thanks in advance!

(For your reference, the specs are in the pictures)

1719187254815-ti.jpg

1719187273191-fz.jpg
Try 65 psi. Max for that tire is 80 lbs.
 

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Thanks for the post.
I also got the platinum last week after 29K on Pirelli AT 20". I had to use sign language to communicate with passengers but now it's so quiet that I can verbally have a proper conversations in the car.

A question to all tire/wheel gurus here - what is the math formula to determine the proper tire pressure for this LTX Platinum on R1S with the factory 20" rims?

Currently, it's at 48 psi (cold) and it does feel very wobbly which is only thing I don't like with this new rubber (yes, I knew it was coming at me since I shopped for quiet and smooth ride. Tire balancing is fine). In other words, in the "firm" suspension mode, I don't feel it's firm anymore. It's firmer than "moderate" but very small difference.

Thanks in advance!

(For your reference, the specs are in the pictures)

1719187254815-ti.jpg

1719187273191-fz.jpg
How has your efficiency/range changed with the Michelins? I need to pull the trigger on new tires sometime in the next few weeks.
 

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OP, I recommend using standard ride height. Auto will eat tires & degrade ride quality...height provides very little efficiency improvement.
 

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In my brief attempts on the highway, going from standard <> low manually to see efficiency differences (not a perfect test ofc), low definitely was a bit better, but so marginally that if the road is not perfect, I'd almost always just keep it in standard height. (DM 2024 R1S)

Edit: I also had a roof top tent on top (bdv duo), so that may have been impacting my efficiency much more than the change in height as well. I'll try a bit more pseudo A-B tests with nothing on the roof/etc.
 

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Is there a notable weight difference between the Oem combo and the new combo?
Rotational inertia and unsprung weight can affect the performance of the vehicle.
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