Rivian, please ”add” a power button

[SANZC02]

Agree. Part of quality UI/UX design is making it simple and intuitive. Closing the app and disabling Bluetooth is neither simple nor intuitive in this case. Tens or hundreds of times a day we flip a switch to turn something completely off. It should be that simple in the RIvian.

I do not have my Rivian yet so will have to see how it goes when I get it.

I will say in 6.5 years with my Tesla I have never once thought I wish there was an off button.

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[TexasBob]

Does Rivian have a problem with how this is implemented? Modern vehicles do not require keys and fobs and on buttons. This is a very weird thread. Walk away automatic shutdown and lock should happen when you move more than 5-10 feet from the vehicle.

 

[astonius]

Does Rivian have a problem with how this is implemented? Modern vehicles do not require keys and fobs and on buttons. This is a very weird thread. Walk away automatic shutdown and lock should happen when you move more than 5-10 feet from the vehicle.

Funny how perspectives differ. Am I really a big outlier that at times I want to be in or around my vehicles without them being fully "on"? I feel like that's a pretty normal thing. Why do I need to be away from my truck for it to turn off? Why does my vehicle need to guess my intentions? Why can't I press a single button to explicitly and unambiguously tell it to turn on or off?

Imagine if your oven assumed you wanted to preheat it every time you walked by...

 

[prestapost]

I’m glad Rivian is taking a next gen approach to the car. Ford has worked hard to make the mach-e and lighting feel old fashioned. I dramatically prefer the Tesla and Rivian approach.

I don’t hate the idea of a double-press park option or something, but turning off bluetooth, locking the vehicle, or turning on camp mode are all only maybe one or two extra clicks.

 

[strykerwsu]

KISS. This is where to me, EV’s try to be too smart and make the simplest things harder. I haven’t had to wait on my damn vehicle to unlock in 10 years. My vehicle has known when it should be off and not waste energy. Simple analog controls have a place.

The OP was right on if we have to live in a Tesla’d world, they don’t have to add buttons, just make the buttons in place do a double click or get the software to work or voice control that works.

 

[astonius]

I’m glad Rivian is taking a next gen approach to the car. Ford has worked hard to make the mach-e and lighting feel old fashioned. I dramatically prefer the Tesla and Rivian approach.

I don’t hate the idea of a double-press park option or something, but turning off bluetooth, locking the vehicle, or turning on camp mode are all only maybe one or two extra clicks.

I don't feel like this is next-gen at all. If anything it feels like a step backwards, trying to solve something that wasn't really a problem to begin with. Removal of buttons is one thing, but this is removal of a feature that could be replicated with other buttons.

Based on your recommended workarounds it should be pretty obvious why it's silly not to at least offer an option. Turning off bluetooth is not only cumbersome but impractical. Why should I have to completely stop using bluetooth entirely on my phone just to prevent my truck from waking up? Camp mode is unintuitive for this purpose, can be in a different spot on the UI based on when it was last used, and it doesn't solve "explicit on," only the explicit off. Locking the truck might do what I expect, I haven't fully explored it yet, but again it's not intuitive and doesn't fully solve some of the issues I pointed out like keeping my music/podcast playing when I'm getting my kid out of the backseat or groceries out of the frunk. A simple one-touch on/off feature is an established precedent and easy to implement. I genuinely don't understand the apprehension.

 

[strykerwsu]

Lock the truck. You can do this with the phone. This isn’t complicated and does not require the fob. Is your PAAK setup correctly?

Our truck locks every time we walk away. We don’t do anything. You can also do this manually in the app.

The vehicle doesn’t need a physics button.

Awesome, but only works about 40% of time and from other threads I’m not alone on this. I haven’t had to think about this in 10 years in ICE vehicles.

 

[WSea]

Funny how perspectives differ. Am I really a big outlier that at times I want to be in or around my vehicles without them being fully "on"? I feel like that's a pretty normal thing. Why do I need to be away from my truck for it to turn off? Why does my vehicle need to guess my intentions? Why can't I press a single button to explicitly and unambiguously tell it to turn on or off?

Imagine if your oven assumed you wanted to preheat it every time you walked by...

Or you could me. They gave me a niro ev loaner while Truck being serviced. Parked in garage and left it there not realizing I had to turn it off. Found out half a day later.

 

[NineElectrics]

I’d like to have an off button if only to eliminate vampire drain. I hope they can run the keys in an extremely low power mode off the 12V.

 

[astonius]

Or you could me. They gave me a niro ev loaner while Truck being serviced. Parked in garage and left it there not realizing I had to turn it off. Found out half a day later.

I believe some cars have an auto-off after a certain period of idle time.

 

[strykerwsu]

Does Rivian have a problem with how this is implemented? Modern vehicles do not require keys and fobs and on buttons. This is a very weird thread. Walk away automatic shutdown and lock should happen when you move more than 5-10 feet from the vehicle.

It is very sporadic to work for many of us. Just give me a fob with a transmitter that works like we are all used to and actually does such simple tasks.

Half the time I’m able to get in and then have my passengers look at me like I’m crazy when I get my hotel like card out of my wallet and wave at the door to be able to go vs a simple button push.

 

[prestapost]

I don't feel like this is next-gen at all.

Personally, I like the way my Rivian on/off experience works better than any ICE vehicle I’ve ever owned.

 

[Zoidz]

Does Rivian have a problem with how this is implemented? Modern vehicles do not require keys and fobs and on buttons. This is a very weird thread. Walk away automatic shutdown and lock should happen when you move more than 5-10 feet from the vehicle.

My wife's 2016 X3 and my daughter's 2022 X3 both have a start/stop button. I'm pretty sure they are modern vehicles.

Your're missing the whole point of the discussion - OP said he wanted to shut the vehicle down completely while sitting in the car.

 

[astonius]

Personally, I like the way my Rivian on/off experience works better than any ICE vehicle I’ve ever owned.

I don’t understand it, but I respect it enough to have no issue with the current behavior being the default alongside a simple “manual power control” toggle in the settings page for those of us who don’t like our appliances to guess our intentions.

 

[astonius]

Continuing to refine this idea:

Keep the current behavior as default. Add a toggle in the settings to enable explicit power control. If enabled, when you open the door the only thing that comes on is the cabin lights (if set to do so) and a prompt on the driver screen to press “P” on the stalk or the brake pedal to turn on the truck. Once pressed everything comes to life: the center screen, HVAC, exterior lights, audio, etc. At this point the truck behaves as normal. Then when you arrive and park a prompt says to press “P” to turn off the truck. Doing so pauses audio, turns off the infotainment screen, HVAC, exterior lights, etc, puts the turn on prompt back in the driver display, and activates roomy exit if enabled.

As an added bonus “P” in this case stands for both Park and Power. How about that.

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