Rivians built with CCS charge ports will get free NACS adapter, with additional adapters available in the Gear Shop

[MidnightRivian]

Vehicles built with the CCS charge ports will get a free NACS adapter, with additional adapters available for purchase in our Gear Shop

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[freejack]

They didn't have to do this but I'm glad they did.

 

[cdub]

I wonder if they could ever retrofit the NACS directly in to eliminate the need for an adapter. (Paid option obviously)

 

[R1Tom]

They didn't have to do this but I'm glad they did.

I was ready to pay $2k. Now I have to go figure out how to explain I have $2k to spend to my wife, since it is now free. This logic won't work....but worth a shot....can't win if you don't play!

 

[NDallasR1S]

I wonder if they could ever retrofit the NACS directly in to eliminate the need for an adapter. (Paid option obviously)

I can only hope. Resale values for vehicles fitted with CCS likely to be negatively impacted as future consumers will want NACS especially if charging infrastructure goes this direction as it currently appears to be doing.

 

[Autolycus]

I wonder if they could ever retrofit the NACS directly in to eliminate the need for an adapter. (Paid option obviously)

Retrofits would be cost-prohibitive. Rivian will never even bother to work out the engineering for it because it makes no practical sense when a cheap adapter does the job.

They would have to replace wiring harnesses, charge controller, and probably the onboard charger itself. Cost and labor would run thousands. The uptake rate would be extremely low. Figuring out what it would take to do would cost Rivian more than they could ever make back.

 

[WSea]

I was ready to pay $2k. Now I have to go figure out how to explain I have $2k to spend to my wife, since it is now free. This logic won't work....but worth a shot....can't win if you don't play!

Don't have to say you got it free!

 

[RWerksman]

This is excellent. Totally exceeded expectations.

Hopefully we don't need to take action to hold them to it.

 

[roberttatefan]

Retrofits would be cost-prohibitive. Rivian will never even bother to work out the engineering for it because it makes no practical sense when a cheap adapter does the job.

They would have to replace wiring harnesses, charge controller, and probably the onboard charger itself. Cost and labor would run thousands. The uptake rate would be extremely low. Figuring out what it would take to do would cost Rivian more than they could ever make back.

I'd be interested in the schematics supporting this. Not saying you're incorrect, but my brain is having trouble rationalizing the ability to create a relatively small adapter but the inability to do so internally through hardwiring.

In my simple brain, this isn't vastly different than replacing a home outlet with a newer model that say, supports USB-C.

 

[Southern R1S]

I can only hope. Resale values for vehicles fitted with CCS likely to be negatively impacted as future consumers will want NACS especially if charging infrastructure goes this direction as it currently appears to be doing.

I think the negative impact, if any, will be very minimal, and I'll gladly take that hit vs. having to wait 2+ years for a R1 fitted with native NACS plug.

The way I see it, there are still a lot of Level 2 chargers using J1772 as well as good number of DCFC using CCS. To use those with a R1 fitted with a native NACS port, you would need an adapter. To use a NACS charger on an R1 fitted with a native CCS port, you would need an adapter.

Either way, most owners are going to be carrying one adapter or another for the foreseeable future, so I'm not overly concerned with whether the adapter I carry is NACS to CCS or CCS to NACS (which Rivian has already stated will be provided free of charge to existing owners).

Now, if they take the wiring structure to 800v at the same time they move to NACS (which would be somewhat logical to make the changes together), the hit would be significantly more for existing R1s, but again -- still willing to take whatever that hit will be for 2+ years of enjoying my R1S.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

They didn't have to do this but I'm glad they did.

And yet some on reddit are carrying pitchforks demanding retrofit.

 

[NC-Rivian]

Vehicles built with the CCS charge ports will get a free NACS adapter, with additional adapters available for purchase in our Gear Shop

I’ll probably get the NACS adapter before I get my broken tonneau replaced

 

[Sfosro]

Retrofits would be cost-prohibitive. Rivian will never even bother to work out the engineering for it because it makes no practical sense when a cheap adapter does the job.

They would have to replace wiring harnesses, charge controller, and probably the onboard charger itself. Cost and labor would run thousands. The uptake rate would be extremely low. Figuring out what it would take to do would cost Rivian more than they could ever make back.

I would think most people have a level two charger at home as I do. Why change the truck receptacle. I agree that a free adapter is completely unexpected though. Thanks Rivian.

 

[COdogman]

I wasn't expecting this, but it's a good move.

 

[CharonPDX]

I was ready to pay $2k. Now I have to go figure out how to explain I have $2k to spend to my wife, since it is now free. This logic won't work....but worth a shot....can't win if you don't play!

Eh, the official Tesla retrofit was only $500, including both charge port upgrade to support the CCS adapter plus the adapter itself. No way was it ever going to be $2000. Even during the Ford NACS announcement, Elon Musk said the adapter for Ford would be "in the hundreds of dollars" range. (Then Ford's CEO implied in an interview it would be provided free, although Ford PR has been super cagey, just saying they would "offer" the adapter. Hopefully this spurs Ford to make it free, too.)

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