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Any updates on the Shasta City RAN?
I will be up in that area in a few weeks but haven’t seen a potential address posted. Will look around though for any signs of it.
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Is this map able to tell us if Rivian making any attempt to enable EV adventuring in areas that you couldn't before?

Are any of Rivian's chargers more than 50 miles away from competing chargers? Or are all of them placed in areas that are already served by equivalent chargers operated by other providers?
 

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I will be up in that area in a few weeks but haven’t seen a potential address posted. Will look around though for any signs of it.
I believe it's in the Best Western Plus Tree House parking lot just off I5 Exit 738 West Lake St.
Heading thru there on the 7th. Hasn't been added to PlugShare yet.
 

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Or are all of them placed in areas that are already served by equivalent chargers operated by other providers?
Clare, MI is about 50 miles from two EA stations but those EA stations honestly aren't well placed for people coming from the Metro Detroit area and they don't have pull-through stations.

The Grayling RAN isn't as far North as the Gaylord EA station, but again it's better placed if you're coming from the Metro Detroit area. While it's possible to get all the way up to Gaylord in good weather without another stop, it's very close to being an issue if there is inclement weather. Grayling is a good place to stop if you're going North or West from there. Gaylord is a pretty significant backtrack to go west. If Mackinaw City RAN ever opens, it'll be well placed to get anywhere in the UP from that stop if the weather is good.

Benton Harbor is on the primary route from Detroit to Chicago, the EA outside of South Bend is out of the way and I'd never consider going to it unless I wasn't able to use RAN now that the BH station is live. We used the BH RAN twice on a Chicago trip and that was the only charging station we stopped at for >600 mile round trip.

Saginaw RAN is competing with the EA in Bay City, which is the only one I've ever seen 4/4 stations being used one time with a line when we drove through it. But that was likely because EA has been throttling the performance there to significantly slower speeds. Ended up skipping the station and driving slightly slower to hit the EA in Gaylord instead (this was a trip before any RAN in Michigan went live). That Bay City station has been having performance related issue for at least half of a year.
 

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Is this map able to tell us if Rivian making any attempt to enable EV adventuring in areas that you couldn't before?

Are any of Rivian's chargers more than 50 miles away from competing chargers? Or are all of them placed in areas that are already served by equivalent chargers operated by other providers?
There's a layer on the google map for an outdated EA location map. It's not up to date as of right now, but it was from sometime months after Rivian laid out their initial RAN strategy and plan. Because of the lag in planning, site contract, install, etc., I think that map is valid for the type of question you're asking. Rivian couldn't rely on EA to add new stations in specific locations.

The RAN's first well-established east-coast route along the Blue Ridge Parkway, they are 100% enabling adventure that would have been doable but significantly harder relying on other chargers. Working south to north along the BRP and looking at >120kw:

1) Cherokee, NC (RAN under construction but not open yet). There's currently a Shell charger that's misleading. It's 200A, so really just 80kw.
2) Asheville, NC. Rivian has skipped this planned location for now. EA has a station that will work ok for BRP travelers.
3) Blowing Rock, NC. There's a 180kw Circle K charger in Boone that opened in March 2023. Distance between them is 10 miles. Going to the Circle K from the BRP would add 20-30 minutes roundtrip vs. using the RAN in Blowing Rock.
4) Meadows of Dan, VA. There's nothing anywhere even remotely close to this one. Nearest >120kw station I can find on Plugshare is 1 hour each way and nowhere near the BRP.
5) Roanoke, VA. There's an EA station on the north side of Roanoke off I-81. Looks like it'd be at least a half hour roundtrip extra if traveling along the BRP, as compared to using the RAN that's in Roanoke proper.
6) Waynesboro, VA. There's an EA station in Staunton, probably 20-30 minutes roundtrip off the BRP and away from Skyline Drive.
7) Front Royal, VA. There's an EA station in Stevens City along I-81. Similar to the ones in Roanoke and Waynesboro, this one is probably a half hour or more roundtrip away from Skyline Dr. in Shenandoah NP.

I would say very definitively that Rivian's prioritizing the Blue Ridge Parkway and Shenandoah NP will facilitate adventure that is theoretically possible but a giant PITA with other chargers. (other than Tesla, potentially. I haven't looked at a supercharger map, and Rivian certainly couldn't have counted on that recent development, nor should they force customers to rely on superchargers exclusively anyway). And when I say possible, I'm largely not taking into account any sort of extended camping or off-grid periods that will drain additional range that's not taken up by covering miles on the road.
 
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Is this map able to tell us if Rivian making any attempt to enable EV adventuring in areas that you couldn't before?

Are any of Rivian's chargers more than 50 miles away from competing chargers? Or are all of them placed in areas that are already served by equivalent chargers operated by other providers?
In Oregon RAN is well placed in Madras, Crescent and Klamath falls. Previously had to deal with 50kW class chargers in Klamath Falls and Madras. Crescent has no competition, not even a SC as of today.

on the OR coast RAN is also well placed but to the negative there is Happy Valley and Roseburg which are just along the I5 corridor.

if you look at California it is similar. Northern Cali coast are really useful along with the 3-4 on the east side of the Sierras but then again you have Sacramento etc that just are on an already served route.

Bottom line it’s a mix of both very useful adventure locations and major freeway corridors.
 

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There's a layer on the google map for an outdated EA location map. It's not up to date as of right now, but it was from sometime months after Rivian laid out their initial RAN strategy and plan. Because of the lag in planning, site contract, install, etc., I think that map is valid for the type of question you're asking. Rivian couldn't rely on EA to add new stations in specific locations.

The RAN's first well-established east-coast route along the Blue Ridge Parkway, they are 100% enabling adventure that would have been doable but significantly harder relying on other chargers. Working south to north along the BRP and looking at >120kw:

1) Cherokee, NC (RAN under construction but not open yet). There's currently a Shell charger that's misleading. It's 200A, so really just 80kw.
2) Asheville, NC. Rivian has skipped this planned location for now. EA has a station that will work ok for BRP travelers.
3) Blowing Rock, NC. There's a 180kw Circle K charger in Boone that opened in March 2023. Distance between them is 10 miles. Going to the Circle K from the BRP would add 20-30 minutes roundtrip vs. using the RAN in Blowing Rock.
4) Meadows of Dan, VA. There's nothing anywhere even remotely close to this one. Nearest >120kw station I can find on Plugshare is 1 hour each way and nowhere near the BRP.
5) Roanoke, VA. There's an EA station on the north side of Roanoke off I-81. Looks like it'd be at least a half hour roundtrip extra if traveling along the BRP, as compared to using the RAN that's in Roanoke proper.
6) Waynesboro, VA. There's an EA station in Staunton, probably 20-30 minutes roundtrip off the BRP and away from Skyline Drive.
7) Front Royal, VA. There's an EA station in Stevens City along I-81. Similar to the ones in Roanoke and Waynesboro, this one is probably a half hour or more roundtrip away from Skyline Dr. in Shenandoah NP.

I would say very definitively that Rivian's prioritizing the Blue Ridge Parkway and Shenandoah NP will facilitate adventure that is theoretically possible but a giant PITA with other chargers. (other than Tesla, potentially. I haven't looked at a supercharger map, and Rivian certainly couldn't have counted on that recent development, nor should they force customers to rely on superchargers exclusively anyway). And when I say possible, I'm largely not taking into account any sort of extended camping or off-grid periods that will drain additional range that's not taken up by covering miles on the road.
Thanks for the detail - and pointing out the EA portion of the map.

Hopefully Rivian(or someone else) will fill in the red areas. Looks like there may be a some RAN locations near the edges of the dead-zones, but it does not look like they have made much progress on closing any of the big gaps.

Rivian R1T R1S RAN Rivian Charging Stations Locations Map via Google Maps Screenshot 2023-06-28 2.10.21 PM
 

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Thanks for the detail - and pointing out the EA portion of the map.

Hopefully Rivian(or someone else) will fill in the red areas. Looks like there may be a some RAN locations near the edges of the dead-zones, but it does not look like they have made much progress on closing any of the big gaps.

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EA has added some chargers in that red zone around MT and the Dakotas and more coming soon. I am planning a trip through there this summer Oregon to Wisconsin so I have been watching closely.
 
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Thanks for the detail - and pointing out the EA portion of the map.

Hopefully Rivian(or someone else) will fill in the red areas. Looks like there may be a some RAN locations near the edges of the dead-zones, but it does not look like they have made much progress on closing any of the big gaps.

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Based on the Southeast, at least, that scale is extremely misleading and makes the gaps in EA seem not so bad, but keep in mind those are all 4-charger locations in the SE, and they're often pretty far apart, which can create very real problems if a station is down or full. You often wouldn't be able to just skip over a station to the next one without having a much higher SOC planned out when departing each stop. The good news is that access to superchargers will help quite a lot on interstates and major routes at least. I hope that means Rivian will prioritize things a little differently but still plan to build something close to their original layout so there are reliable non-Tesla options.
 

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Based on the Southeast, at least, that scale is extremely misleading and makes the gaps in EA seem not so bad, but keep in mind those are all 4-charger locations in the SE, and they're often pretty far apart, which can create very real problems if a station is down or full. You often wouldn't be able to just skip over a station to the next one without having a much higher SOC planned out when departing each stop.
Yea for me, if Columbia, SC is down I'm screwed trying to make it to Charleston, SC unless I planned ahead and charged fully to 100%.
 

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Is this map able to tell us if Rivian making any attempt to enable EV adventuring in areas that you couldn't before?

Are any of Rivian's chargers more than 50 miles away from competing chargers? Or are all of them placed in areas that are already served by equivalent chargers operated by other providers?
Oregon got a bunch of RAN early - almost all in corridors badly served by competitors. Once you leave the Interstate-5 corridor to Central/Eastern Oregon, or Interstate-84 skirting along the Norther edge, there was only one >50kW station - a 4-stall EA in the biggest city in Central Oregon.

Rivian added three stations to that part of the state, making highway US-97 drivable from Washington to California.

Here's what >50kW CCS looks like for non-Rivian vehicles:
Rivian R1T R1S RAN Rivian Charging Stations Locations Map via Google Maps 1687987003504


Here's RAN:
Rivian R1T R1S RAN Rivian Charging Stations Locations Map via Google Maps 1687987149355


The three down the center of the state, three on the coast, plus, two along I-5. Those coastal stations add a lot more >50kW plugs to US-101 along the coast (one of the EA on the coast just opened up last week, with another having half of its stalls broken for months.) More than doubling the number of total >50kW stalls on the coast between Washington and the Redwoods in California. (The station at the bottom is a couple miles into California.)
 

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EA has added some chargers in that red zone around MT and the Dakotas and more coming soon. I am planning a trip through there this summer Oregon to Wisconsin so I have been watching closely.
Those are probably the only areas where I would use a Tesla supercharger. I travel to northern Minnesota from Colorado at least once a year and it would be nice to be able to either add some fast chargers (1x 50kw charger in a small town isn't enough or fast) or be able to access the superchargers close to there.
 

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You often wouldn't be able to just skip over a station to the next one without having a much higher SOC planned out when departing each stop.
Not being able to skip stations without a full charge is so much less of an issue than no stations within reach even when you do charge to 100%.
 

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The Saginaw, MI location is now online and working great. Location is also showing up in the truck, Rivian app, and ABRP.

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I used this station today while towing a car trailer north. The pull-through stall in your picture was ICEd so I had to use one of the others from the far side - and that was almost blocked by the placement of a big yellow dumpster there...
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