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*Based on manufacturer internal simulation data. Actual mileage may vary. Class is Electric Pickups.
Lets see how accurate their internal simulations are. 229kWh battery is just ridiculous. I have to wonder what the biggest size is going to be available in the Cybertruck. I imagine RAM just got tired of waiting for Tesla to release new figures.
 

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That all looks great. Except wow that interior is BUSY. A bit too much going on for my tastes
As a driver I'm definitely not very interested in having a screen for the passenger, seems like there's going to be too much distraction. If the passenger is having to lean forward at all to touch it they're going to get in the way of the side mirrors.
 

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I personally don't care for it. They played it way too safe. Lots of comments dragging the truck in the live stream too. I think most of the comments were asking for their reservation money back.
 
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My curiosity will be more focused on what kind of TOWING Range that big-ass battery will offer. If this truck can pull say 7,500 lb aero-trailer a good 250+ miles then finally there's a legit EV option for cross-country adventuring.
 

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This thing has got to weigh 9,000+ lbs with that large of a battery. The Hummer EV weighs 9,000 lbs with a slightly smaller battery.
 

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This thing has got to weigh 9,000+ lbs with that large of a battery. The Hummer EV weighs 9,000 lbs with a slightly smaller battery.
The Hummer EV's nominal capacity is >245 kWh but they only allow you to access ~212 kWh. GM will probably unlock more of it in the Silverado and Sierra as they test, just as Rivian has been doing with their pack.
 

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I was a fan of the late concept renderings; the final production is not attractive imo. I also agree the cabin is far too busy.

I wonder how/why they project the larger battery pack to be more efficient than the standard. If the 168kWh battery hopes to get 300 miles that would be ~1.79, the large pack to achieve 500 miles would be 2.19; am I missing something? Wouldn't a larger pack weigh more meaning your number would drop?

I seriously doubt it can achieve these already pathetic nominal numbers due to the size and weight of the vehicle (comparing to the R1T efficiency, or I guess inefficiency).
 

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Oof, that thing will be so heavy.

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My curiosity will be more focused on what kind of TOWING Range that big-ass battery will offer. If this truck can pull say 7,500 lb aero-trailer a good 250+ miles then finally there's a legit EV option for cross-country adventuring.
Charging curve is going to be super important. First ~50% in the Hummer takes around 30 minutes but the rate of charge drops off precipitously after that. GM just can't evacuate enough retained heat energy and they have issues with the 400v/800v pack switching because of it.
 

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My curiosity will be more focused on what kind of TOWING Range that big-ass battery will offer. If this truck can pull say 7,500 lb aero-trailer a good 250+ miles then finally there's a legit EV option for cross-country adventuring.
Cross country? Even if the 229kWh battery can achieve towing that style trailer 250 miles I can't imagine how annoying it would be to wait around for the battery to charge back to 100%...or more practically 80% from 10%. So start with 100%, drive 250 miles, charge back to 80% (160kWh assuming DC fast charge and the Ram is 800v) taking ~1 hr in the real world, drive 200 miles, charge 1 hr to 80%, rinse/repeat. Of course that is in a perfect world, which cross country EV charging is not.
 

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The Hummer EV's nominal capacity is >245 kWh but they only allow you to access ~212 kWh. GM will probably unlock more of it in the Silverado and Sierra as they test, just as Rivian has been doing with their pack.
I'm not sure the 229kWh they quote is the full battery or just what they provide access to as well. Regardless, this thing is going to be a beast.
 
 








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