Lmirafuente
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Incentives should incentivize. The wealthy look for a discount too. Allowing expensive vehicles to take advantage of incentives means more money for the companies advancing this technology, allowing broader adoption sooner, allegedly the whole point of incentives.Scaling it back for more expensive cars makes sense for an incentive theoretically designed to encourage folks who might have to stretch to afford the new tech. Wealthy folks can afford it. Average folks need the edge. I know a LOT of people who would consider electric, but just can’t pay the premium right now for their only vehicle that has to do it all.
Pretty much the same situation here. At ~$70K the incentive will make a difference.I can tell you that the tax credit helped with my spousal justification for a Rivian. She still gave me a hard time the other day about paying so much for a vehicle.
I would agree with a $100K cap, but think the incentive is needed up to that amount to move people to EVs instead of less expensive ICE vehicles from "proven" companies.
In order to help all the fine people in the Rivian family enjoy the highest possible federal and state rebates, I'll gladly step up and take one for the team and purchase my LE R1T for $49,999. I'm guessing that means the camp kitchen is off the table for now, but as with Tesla, I can pay the extra for it later.Pretty much the same situation here. At ~$70K the incentive will make a difference.
It is also important to have any incentive based on actual selling price.
The Oregon incentive is for vehicles with a base MSRP <$50K. So a $75K Model Y or $70K Model 3 qualifies for the Oregon incentive while a $67,500 R1T does not.
In Canada, Tesla was (is?) offering a software limited Model 3 "off the menu" with reduced range at under their $50K cap so that all Model 3's qualify. Anyone that does decide to purchase it can later pay the extra to unlock the full battery.
Actually Tesla was able to get the Model 3 qualified out of the gate by announcing that they would have one for <$50K sometime in the future. If Rivian wants to officially announce that they will have a 2 motor R1T (as an example) with a small pack for <$50K base at some future time, we can likely get the $2,500 from Oregon.In order to help all the fine people in the Rivian family enjoy the highest possible federal and state rebates, I'll gladly step up and take one for the team and purchase my LE R1T for $49,999. I'm guessing that means the camp kitchen is off the table for now, but as with Tesla, I can pay the extra for it later.
No need to thank me, sometimes we just do what we have to do to help others.?
I think it was you that once mentioned Tesla sold some vehicles with greater capabilities locked to qualify for incentive programs. I'm much more for that kind of gaming the game approach than compromising vehicle capabilities. The resell value for one thing is higher if the second owner can buy the extra 100 horsepower with a software upgrade.Actually Tesla was able to get the Model 3 qualified out of the gate by announcing that they would have one for <$50K sometime in the future. If Rivian wants to officially announce that they will have a 2 motor R1T (as an example) with a small pack for <$50K base at some future time, we can likely get the $2,500 from Oregon.
Not sure if they did it for incentive programs or to generate sales. Back in 2016 when they started taking reservations for the model 3, they started selling a Model S 60 that was a software limited 75 that listed for 10K less than the 75. This put it in the same price range of what the high-end Model 3 would be. They did this to pull some of the Model 3 reservation holders into a model S.I think it was you that once mentioned Tesla sold some vehicles with greater capabilities locked to qualify for incentive programs. I'm much more for that kind of gaming the game approach than compromising vehicle capabilities. The resell value for one thing is higher if the second owner can buy the extra 100 horsepower with a software upgrade.