Mark Rober teases R2 modification

[renderpaz]

I'll defend Rober a little here. He's done more good than harm overall, and if he gets, well anyone really, more excited about science that's a win. In a world full of people that can't think logically I'll take whatever help we can get to turn that tide. Rober's a good force in that regard, even if not perfect at all times.

I see you are on Stage II Mark Rober Views: Negotiating. I'm at Stage IV: Annoying Protestor. Don't let my kids watch his videos and use him as an example of how fame and success can corrupt.

The Tesla/Luminar scam video was exactly that, a scam. They drove a old Tesla Model Y through a fake wall without auto-pilot/FSD even on and pretended it failed. In our current social-media-is-destorying-the-planet climate this may seem like a little oopsie, but not in my household.

While his old content was great, he is no longer getting people excited about Science and Engineering, he is giving parents moral permission to plop their kids down in front of a screen and believe its doing good. While his videos used to share the process and the failures, he now glosses over any real problem solving, and instead aims to deliver dopamine.

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[renderpaz]

Yeah massive POS for clickbait views. And not just clickbait - deceived on purpose to pump a bankrupt LIDAR company now. Disengaged FSD right before the picture wall too.

Even if you (proverbial) hate Tesla, it was a wildly disingenuous video.

Wasn't even FSD, wasn't even current Model Y at the time!

 

[SwampNut]

Even if you (proverbial) hate Tesla

Actually if you hate Tesla/Muskrat, you should be more pissed. It all backfired on every front and made Tesla look better, and haters look dumber.

 

[SwampNut]

he now glosses over any real problem solving, and instead aims to deliver dopamine.

An important point. Long ago he'd done video or webinar/call with Cory Doctorow covering the enshittification of educational media, and now, he's doing the very same things they said. I guess he learned how to maximize clicks/monetization from that. Fuck him.

We should not be promoting his crap here.

 

[lefkonj]

Its a roof mounted toilet just makes the content easier to deal with .

 

[Dark-Fx]

Actually if you hate Tesla/Muskrat, you should be more pissed. It all backfired on every front and made Tesla look better, and haters look dumber.

Only to Elon lovers.

 

[carsly]

maybe he slapped one of the last Luminar sensor arrays to the roof to prove it was all garbage anyway and that Rivian LiDAR > Luminar LiDAR

 

[eRacer]

Kinda hard to argue how his intentions on educating our youth is not valid. Way better than all the other "Brain Rot" videos out there or viral tik tok challenges being posted.

Tough crowd in todays society as there is no grace given to people anymore. You're always one bad step away from being ostracized.

 

[R1Thor]

This is a much more sensical take on the situation. I think "lying weasel" is a bit aggressive myself.


Same premise as above. "Didn't work" is far more accurate than "backfire" here.

I'll defend Rober a little here. He's done more good than harm overall, and if he gets, well anyone really, more excited about science that's a win. In a world full of people that can't think logically I'll take whatever help we can get to turn that tide. Rober's a good force in that regard, even if not perfect at all times.

For real, has everyone seen this?

We need more of this. He's a national treasure.

 

[Jeremy3292]

Tough crowd in todays society as there is no grace given to people anymore. You're always one bad step away from being ostracized.

Grace is for those who make mistakes in life and show contrition for their actions, not those who intentionally mislead others with no apology or remorse. He knew exactly what he was doing and he did it anyway.

People hate Elon Musk for being Republican and having different views than liberals. Maybe they should give him "grace" too.

"Eyes of the beholder" as it were.

 

[SwampNut]

You're always one bad step away from being ostracized.

Multiple, compounding, and recurring bad steps were discussed here. Your entire post is pretty well invalidated by either choosing to ignore that, or not knowing it.

 

[R1Thor]

Multiple, compounding, and recurring bad steps were discussed here. Your entire post is pretty well invalidated by either choosing to ignore that, or not knowing it.

Ok, so let me get this straight.
He did one thing that you fundamentally disagree with, so his character in totality is completely dismissive and outright regarded as outcast to you?

Sorry, I must have missed it: what exactly have you done to improve the interest, exposure, and build excitement amount STEM for our youth? I guess I missed that between your needless vitriol and incessant hate-mongering.

 

[SwampNut]

He did one thing

No. You'll have to keep trying if you want to get it straight.

what exactly have you done to improve the interest, exposure, and build excitement amount STEM for our youth?

I run model rocketry programs every summer at local impoverished schools.

 

[TexasBob]

Purposely so, since it's true. It also turned out that one of his viral video series was set up also, and he at least apologized that time. Lying weasel.


Rober set up a fake test to prove that Teslas without LIDAR would collide, and LIDAR saves the day. A friend and financial supporter owned a now-bankrupt LIDAR company.

That is pretty funny, had not heard about this. So to summarize:
Elon Musk and Tesla set up a fake viral video to show they had a functioning robo-taxi and then this guy set up a fake viral video to show the Teslas would collide without LiDAR?
The liar lied about the other liar who was lying about the big lie being pitched to pump the stock.

 

[Jeremy3292]

That is pretty funny, had not heard about this. So to summarize:
Elon Musk and Tesla set up a fake viral video to show they had a functioning robo-taxi and then this guy set up a fake viral video to show the Teslas would collide without LiDAR?
The liar lied about the other liar who was lying about the big lie being pitched to pump the stock.

Not really. He used Autopilot, not FSD. Autopilot is basically lane centering for the highway. It's not even applicable to the scenario he's using it for. If that wasn't bad enough, he also disengaged Autopilot before hitting the wall, which can seen on the car screen at the 15:42 mark.

He's purposedly relying on viewer ignorance of not understanding the difference to pump some LIDAR company. Tesla has never said Autopilot could do the things he's testing!

Watch for yourself - around 8 min mark is the actual start:

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