How do you manually open the rear doors on a Gen2?

[Zoidz]

Well, child locks are legal, can't be overridden by the handles. I'd think this emergency release still would though, so perhaps we're actually in a safer situation than otherwise?

My 5 year old son has no chance of opening the door at all if the vehicle is tipped up such that the weight of the door has to be manipulated to exit, anyway.

With child lockout YOU make the choice based on YOUR values and risk tolerance. I’m all for personal choice. Rivian has provided no choice.

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[Dark-Fx]

With child lockout YOU make the choice based on YOUR values and risk tolerance. I’m all for personal choice. Rivian has provided no choice.

Leave the panel off then if that's your risk tolerance.

 

[socaladam]

You actually didnt say that before? Neither the OP nor you mentioned kids being capable to open the emergency release.
You also specifically posted false information saying "you don't" escape the rear seat and instead have to "escape through the front door"

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[csharp]

Post #7

Yes, you said that AFTER the post (#6) in which you stated the falsehoods that I quoted.

 

[sub]

With child lockout YOU make the choice based on YOUR values and risk tolerance. I’m all for personal choice. Rivian has provided no choice.

YOU choose to buy the vehicle based on YOUR values and risk tolerance. Every day YOU chose to get in it based on YOUR values and risk tolerance.

You seem to actually only be for choice if it is a choice you agree with. Should I have the choice of buying a vehicle with electronically actuated door latches. It sounds like you think I should not have that choice. I have a Gen 1 vehicle with manual latches and the Gen 2 door latches are probably the feature that I find most tempting me to upgrade. I am glad that it is available as something I could choose.

Rivian has made plenty of design decisions that I don't agree with. But we all choose to purchase it despite those annoyances. If this was something that Rivian changed via an automaticly installed OTA update then I would agree with you about Rivian not giving you a choice. But that isn't what happened. Perhaps you regret your decision but you choose this.

 

[cohall]

you don’t.

Escape is through the front doors. Service explained this to me after I noted there was no rear interior door handles.

Another item I wish I knew before buying the R1S.

This is patently false, and is dangerous to people who might read your post. As has been shown multiple times, there is a rear door escape pull for emergencies, and you should inform rear passengers of it if they aren't already familiar.

You should delete or update your post...could save someone's life.

 

[socaladam]

This is patently false, and is dangerous to people who might read your post. As has been shown multiple times, there is a rear door escape pull for emergencies, and you should inform rear passengers of it if they aren't already familiar.

You should delete or update your post...could save someone's life.

This is literally what our service center told us. The service advisor, and the delivery team all confirmed this is the way to exit in an emergency.

Don’t blame me for repeating what has been communicated.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Well, I've made a service appointment for a different issue on my gen2, perhaps before the appointment I'll see if my son can actually pop the panel off and use the emergency release to escape.

 

[cohall]

This is literally what our service center told us. The service advisor, and the delivery team all confirmed this is the way to exit in an emergency.

Don’t blame me for repeating what has been communicated.

I’m not sure what your goal is here. First you say that there is no way to open the rear doors. Then you claim you DO know that there is a way, but it will be difficult for a child. Then you say it’s OK to spread false information, which you already admitted you know is false ( and was shown to you directly from the manual in a previous post), because someone once told you otherwise.

What is the goal of intentionally repeating bad information that could hurt someone in an emergency?

The rear doors are equipped with an emergency release. This is a fact. And those releases could save someone’s life.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I’m not sure what your goal is here. First you say that there is no way to open the rear doors. Then you claim you DO know that there is a way, but it will be difficult for a child. Then you say it’s OK to spread false information, which you already admitted you know is false ( and was shown to you directly from the manual in a previous post), because someone once told you otherwise.

What is the goal of intentionally repeating bad information that could hurt someone in an emergency?

The rear doors are equipped with an emergency release. This is a fact. And those releases could save someone’s life.

To be the devil's advocate, that knowledge could also cost someone their life. It might be quicker to just climb through the front seats vs attempting to remove the panel and pull the release that could be hard to see in a smoky environment.

 

[cohall]

To be the devil's advocate, that knowledge could also cost someone their life. It might be quicker to just climb through the front seats vs attempting to remove the panel and pull the release that could be hard to see in a smoky environment.

Ha Ha. Yes, there are many scenarios. But thats like saying you’d rather try and make your way to the front of a burning plane rather than pulling the panel off the window exit you’re sitting directly next to. In certain scenarios, maybe that’s the better escape plan, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that having more exit options is always better than having fewer.

 

[socaladam]

I’m not sure what your goal is here. First you say that there is no way to open the rear doors. Then you claim you DO know that there is a way, but it will be difficult for a child. Then you say it’s OK to spread false information, which you already admitted you know is false ( and was shown to you directly from the manual in a previous post), because someone once told you otherwise.

What is the goal of intentionally repeating bad information that could hurt someone in an emergency?

The rear doors are equipped with an emergency release. This is a fact. And those releases could save someone’s life.

Go do it. Post a video from inside of how long it takes to pull the panel, find the cord, and exit the vehicle.

Now do it in the front seat.

My goal is to get Rivian owners to complain to the company so they will take this matter seriously.

I’ve already filed a formal complaint with NHTSA.

 

[socaladam]

Ha Ha. Yes, there are many scenarios. But thats like saying you’d rather try and make your way to the front of a burning plane rather than pulling the panel off the window exit you’re sitting directly next to. In certain scenarios, maybe that’s the better escape plan, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that having more exit options is always better than having fewer.

using your analogy, everyone should sit in the exit row of a plane.

 

[Zoidz]

You seem to actually only be for choice if it is a choice you agree with. Should I have the choice of buying a vehicle with electronically actuated door latches. It sounds like you think I should not have that choice.

What are you going on about??

I never said or implied that you couldn't have electric releases. I'm simply saying that the mechanical emergency release should not be hidden behind a trim piece that is difficult to even identify, let alone remove.

 

[BigSkies]

I'm in the camp that is disappointing Rivian went with electronic door latches. I have them on my Model Y thinking I'd be okay with them, and I'm not.

Anyone who thinks a mechanical backup is sufficient for safety (even in the front seat) has a fundamental misunderstanding of how the human brain functions in high-adrenaline situations.

While the overall risks are low, the consequences of not having functional door handles in a crisis is catastrophic. My Gen 1 Rivian is my favorite vehicle I've ever owned, but I will never buy another vehicle with electric door latches.

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