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I mean...considering how many CCS chargers aren't located near food, I'd have stopped at the Tesla SC with a BK next to it too.
My wife saw the lot of them wearing the crowns and laughed saying anyone stopping at a BK on a road trip *must* get the crown.
Honestly, the race isn't useful to compare the vehicles in my opinion. The CT team was stacked with Kyle, Drew, and Branden (sp?) all of which are have a lot of experience driving teslas and have experience with the CT. Two of them are very competitive and they were pushing things to the point of managing the location of the windshield wiper to prevent drag, minimizing seconds for the charge port to open, turning the HVAC off, and screeching tires leaving parking lots. If you drop those two in either the SIlverado or R1T, the results would shift quite a bit.
Agree. "Virtual tie" is probably fair for the 3 other than the Lightning. The Lightning's charge curve is just too conservative for long road trips. I guess it makes charge management simple (charge to 80% then move on the next station)?
Here is the difference for my Hummer on an EVGO 800V charger, which was initially limiting me to 400A (truck indicates limited by charger) and a Tesla SC at 400V (I was getting 500A initially). Big difference. But the Hummer is still pretty good past 60%, as compared to the Rivian.
Sure, but it does show that the Silverado / Ultium platform is really damn good, when it's working properly. That team wasn't doing much in the way of optimization and they still won, where Kyle had to do all the silliness you mentioned. Similarly, the R1T crew *really* didn't understand the truck and how to optimize things and yet they weren't far behind the CT. Lightning...just needs to charge better. But if you don't care about time as much, the Lightning would be mostly frustration free since you just charge it to 80% every time and move on to the next charger since the curve is so flat.
Right, but if you have the option of an 800V station or a 400V station, which one are you going to choose? Assuming you have a reasonable idea that both are in good working order.Here is the difference for my Hummer on an EVGO 800V charger, which was initially limiting me to 400A (truck indicates limited by charger) and a Tesla SC at 400V (I was getting 500A initially). Big difference. But the Hummer is still pretty good past 60%, as compared to the Rivian.
120kW peak rate is certainly not impressive but holding that rate to 80% SOC is. If the Rivian could hold even 100kW between 70-80% it would kill all of these imposters
Agreed.
I will definitely pick 800V over Tesla, but if chargers are broke or crowded, then I would pick a Tesla charger. I think the pack balancing is happening at 75%, you can see the dip in the 800V curve, and it is not in the 400V curve. When they first came out, there was a dip earlier in the curve, then a second one. The thing is, even at 85%, the charge rate is still at 125kw on either voltage. There is no cliff in the rate, it is linear after that. I know Rivian and Ford step down at 80%.
