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So then why not assume they did what was most prudent and appropriate assuming that was likely to be the case?Everyone is going to complain no matter where it is.
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So then why not assume they did what was most prudent and appropriate assuming that was likely to be the case?Everyone is going to complain no matter where it is.
Will CCS2 even fit under that flap though?Remember, they do intend this to be a global model, not just a North American one like the R1. Curb-side charging will be a more important use case with R2 and I imagine especially R3 at some point.
I really like the current port location but am pretty sure I could make anything work in my garage. I pull front in, but the 25ā cable can reach any corner. Just a matter of hanging it from the ceiling so itās accessible to the rear instead of the front.
Even if it was front left or right, how would you charge while hitched if the spot wasn't a pull through or "parallel parking?"Anything but front left or right pretty much guarantees having to unhitch if towing to charge.
Very good question! Probably not, but thatās a change of 2 body parts and the port plus maybe some electronics that would have to be different anyway. Much better than rerouting all the wiring.Will CCS2 even fit under that flap though?
Wrong, there are many charging locations that allow for pulling in without blocking traffic. Many chargers are at the edge of parking lots with little to no traffic. I have yet to ever block traffic or take up more than the charging stall I was using. 2 examples Centerville Tx. RAN or the Lordsburg, NM Electrify America location. Both allow for pulling in and not blocking any traffic or other users.Even if it was front left or right, how would you charge while hitched if the spot wasn't a pull through or "parallel parking?"
You'd be blocking the lane of travel in between stalls, no?
That I agree with.Long-term, DCFC sites will need to start being designed like gas stations. Covered spots that you pull through and that work better for all port locations should be the norm
Nope.I think āwrong wayā is all relative, isnāt it?
The problem with the passenger side for quite a few people who charge at home will be space and access. Many folks have just enough room for the width of the vehicle plus space for the driver to open their door. In those cases, you canāt charge if you leave room to open the door on the driverās side. As a general rule, if thereās enough space to enter/exit the vehicle on the driverās side there will be enough space to access and use the charge port on that side so you never cause the access problem that you can create by putting it on the passengerās side, which can double the clearance requirement in a garage.
It's not very clear. The only thing really driving that choice is Tesla. One person noted driver side is helpful for very right parking, conversely passenger side is much better if you need to curbside charge.It seems very clear where the best charge port location is for the most potential customers: Rear-driver.
Itās not a matter of driverās side being helpful, itās a matter of passenger side making some parking locations unusable for charging. Nobody has proposed a viable work-around of an extension, pulling in a different direction, etc. which address this. The curbside L1/L2 charging issue has viable work-arounds but constrained width parking doesnāt. At least nobody here has proposed a solution that Iāve seen. If you have a space narrow enough that there is only enough room to open the driverās door by placing the passenger side against a wall or other obstacle which prevents port access or ability to connect, how do people work around that?It's not very clear. The only thing really driving that choice is Tesla. One person noted driver side is helpful for very right parking, conversely passenger side is much better if you need to curbside charge.
I hear ya, and it was a good point I hadn't thought of previously. My POV on this is the likelihood of A is much greater than B. Apparently curbside parking is relatively common in Europe, and you're starting to see it more here in various cities. I also would absolutely not charge a car on a street with the charge handle sticking out into the street.Itās not a matter of driverās side being helpful, itās a matter of passenger side making some parking locations unusable for charging. Nobody has proposed a viable work-around of an extension, pulling in a different direction, etc. which address this. The curbside L1/L2 charging issue has viable work-arounds but constrained width parking doesnāt. At least nobody here has proposed a solution that Iāve seen. If you have a space narrow enough that there is only enough room to open the driverās door by placing the passenger side against a wall or other obstacle which prevents port access or ability to connect, how do people work around that?
Iām not saying that the driverās side is universally better in all circumstances, but that the passenger side can create situations which make charging impossible which the driverās side does not. Inconvenient, maybe, but not impossible.
If there is a there work-around for the width issue then I have no other objections. I really donāt care where the port is as long as it doesnāt render a significant number of spaces unusable.
I completely understand the issues with curbside charging and I agree that there needs to be some accommodation. Beyond that, from what Iāve seen folks in Europe typically have even narrower garages and assigned parking when they have them. I just donāt think that a convenience with a work-around (even for many) should override a need without a work-around (even for few). On some level, it wouldnāt surprise me if here in the U.S. an ADA complaint wouldnāt force the issue to accommodate charging from both sides.I hear ya, and it was a good point I hadn't thought of previously. My POV on this is the likelihood of A is much greater than B. Apparently curbside parking is relatively common in Europe, and you're starting to see it more here in various cities. I also would absolutely not charge a car on a street with the charge handle sticking out into the street.