0-60 Dual Performance (Gen 1) - All-purpose vs Sport Mode.

[narmstrong79]

I did two back to back 0 to 60 runs in my R1S dual performance generation 1. SoC was about 70% , battery temperature at about 55° ambient temperature at about 43°

Recorded with Racebox mini.

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[SANZC02]

That is a big difference, I hardly ever have my G1 quad in Sport mode. I should put it in to see the difference from All-Purpose.

 

[narmstrong79]

That is a big difference, I hardly ever have my G1 quad in Sport mode. I should put it in to see the difference from All-Purpose.

I never use sport mode either. Mine lives in All-purpose

 

[DayTripping]

I did two back to back 0 to 60 runs in my R1S dual performance generation 1. SoC was about 70% , battery temperature at about 55° ambient temperature at about 43°

Recorded with Racebox mini.

I am in sport mode almost all the time when not in Conserve mode. The truck hits much harder off the line and up to about 40 mph. The runs seem decent given the cold pack and temps. Good to have a baseline.

Do these times account for rollout?

Adding your times to the following thread that I started would be helpful for others. Also post other info about the run and your truck such as what tires, suspension settings, etc. You'll get an idea of what I posted with my runs.

Dragy and timed runs - post your data here

 

[narmstrong79]

I am in sport mode almost all the time when not in Conserve mode. The truck hits much harder off the line and up to about 40 mph. The runs seem decent given the cold pack and temps. Good to have a baseline.

Do these times account for rollout?

Adding your times to the following thread that I started would be helpful for others. Also post other info about the run and your truck such as what tires, suspension settings, etc. You'll get an idea of what I posted with my runs.

Dragy and timed runs - post your data here

Since I'm a dual motor I don't have a conserve mode.
These account for a 1ft rollout

 

[DayTripping]

Since I'm a dual motor I don't have a conserve mode.
These account for a 1ft rollout

I understand about the lack of conserve mode. For me it is basically sport or conserve, I almost never use AP mode.

So if your times include rollout, you are about .7 seconds to .9 second slower than a Gen 1 quad.

What tires are you running? What kind of surface were you on? Did you have traction control on or off?

Can you do some 45-65 runs?

It looks like you are launching fairly hard, about as fast as a G1 quad in AP mode, then it falls off after 30 mph. You are about .1 - .2 seconds slower to 30 than my typical runs in sport. It definitely should be fun at a light.

 

[narmstrong79]

I understand about the lack of conserve mode. For me it is basically sport or conserve, I almost never use AP mode.

So if your times include rollout, you are about .7 seconds to .9 second slower than a Gen 1 quad.

What tires are you running? What kind of surface were you on? Did you have traction control on or off?

Can you do some 45-65 runs?

It looks like you are launching fairly hard, about as fast as a G1 quad in AP mode, then it falls off after 30 mph. You are about .1 - .2 seconds slower to 30 than my typical runs in sport. It definitely should be fun at a light.

All-purpose standard ride height , no adjustments to traction or stability.

Sport mode with the only modification being lowest ride height.

Brake boost launch, on (not great) pavement.

My build is with the 22" sports a/t tires.

I plan to do more runs of I can find a spot to do it.

 

[DayTripping]

This is interesting to know. See if you can add custom speed ranges like the 45-65 I mentioned. I haven't used my Racebox in a while so I don't recall if you can.

I setup a lot in Dragy so I have a good idea of the performance at almost any speed range. Too many to list but like 0-10, 10-20, 20-30,... 30-50, 45-65, 50-70, etc. I added the 45-65 since one of the car magazines likes to use it so I've found l good metric to compare a lot of cars with that don't rely. on hard launches.

Since they speed limit most Rivians to below 130, most of us can't run a 60-130 time. I'm not sure even the new G2 Tri or Quad might not do it since they might stop at 130 mph indicated which would likely be a few mph shy of what Dragy is tracking due to speed error.

 

[narmstrong79]

This is interesting to know. See if you can add custom speed ranges like the 45-65 I mentioned. I haven't used my Racebox in a while so I don't recall if you can.

I setup a lot in Dragy so I have a good idea of the performance at almost any speed range. Too many to list but like 0-10, 10-20, 20-30,... 30-50, 45-65, 50-70, etc. I added the 45-65 since one of the car magazines likes to use it so I've found l good metric to compare a lot of cars with that don't rely. on hard launches.

Since they speed limit most Rivians to below 130, most of us can't run a 60-130 time. I'm not sure even the new G2 Tri or Quad might not do it since they might stop at 130 mph indicated which would likely be a few mph shy of what Dragy is tracking due to speed error.

It looks like I can set some custom settings.

 

[DayTripping]

That's great, Nick. I'd suggest doing the following.

30-50
45-65
50-70
and one of the following
50-80
or 60-90

The last two can be a bit more challenging to run when on the street. It will cover a good range of your performance envelope.

 

[narmstrong79]

That's great, Nick. I'd suggest doing the following.

30-50
45-65
50-70
and one of the following
50-80
or 60-90

The last two can be a bit more challenging to run when on the street. It will cover a good range of your performance envelope.

Cool, thanks for the advice. Hopefully I can find a time and place to play around

 

[Rally1]

It’s my understanding that in Quads the top performance is only achieved with a higher state of charge than you had. I assume the same applies for the Dual. I seem to remember it being mentioned in an OutOfSpec video (of which there are many!)

edit: looks like some in this thread have already discussed this: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...n-acceleration-preferably-a-quad-motor.35822/

 

[DayTripping]

It’s my understanding that in Quads the top performance is only achieved with a higher state of charge than you had. I assume the same applies for the Dual. I seem to remember it being mentioned in an OutOfSpec video (of which there are many!)

edit: looks like some in this thread have already discussed this: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...n-acceleration-preferably-a-quad-motor.35822/

Thats another one of my threads. Can't tell I am obsessed with performance can you?

Based on the probably 100+ runs I've done with my quad, it makes a difference to have a higher SoC (state of charge) but you likely won't notice it, even though you can measure it, 0-60.

I start to notice more when doing over 70 mph acceleration runs. My truck is traction limited on the 0-60 runs.

The reason I started the Dragy thread is to quantify how it runs in an everyday configuration. Not running it at the track or a prepped surface, not having a very high SoC (>80%), with junk in the trunk, etc. By playing around with it a bit, I ended up with some of the quickest times I've seen for an G1 R1T quad on an unprepped surface. I wasn't even running a high SoC like others were, and I had the 21" factory wheels with stuff in the truck on top of it.

I've found it is a lot thicker to launch than my S Plaid. That thing is just put it in launch mode, let it warm up, fire and forget. It is also running on wider and stickier tires so that helps a ton even if it has 25% more power.

For reference, I drove a dual motor Cybertruck. On the street, they'll run even with a dual performance Rivian to 60. Don't run a trimotor Cyberbeat with any current Rivian. They aren't even in the same performance league but I'll still take my Rivian over one.

 

[MikeWilliams_R1T]

Tires and suspension setting will play a HUGE role in the acceleration.

On my 21” Michelin Defenders, I’m consistently getting 3.6-3.7 0-60 runs in sport mode with stability set to reduced and suspension set to lowest. I’m on a dual motor with the performance upgrade.

 

[FrankieJ]

I did two back to back 0 to 60 runs in my R1S dual performance generation 1. SoC was about 70% , battery temperature at about 55° ambient temperature at about 43°

Recorded with Racebox mini.

Which of the two runs is All Purpose?

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