Dragy and timed runs - post your data here

[DayTripping]

I really couldn't find a dedicated Dragy data thread. The more insight you can post about your run, the more helpful it will be for others. Add anything you want

Here is the data I collected for this run: (all my runs were on the latest SW 2024.47.01).
Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Cargo/weight: About 450 pounds, including driver
SW: 2024.47.01
Temps: 50F
Winds: <5 mph
Battery Temps: 62F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 72F/76F
DA: -426'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 62%
Mode: AP
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Hard
Traction control (High/Med/Off): Med
Notes: First of several. Sort of run what you brung and sort of a worst case scenario. I have been trying different launches and sometimes it seems better to just hit the pedal without braking and sometimes it seems better to brake torque it with the throttle depressed and let off the brake. There seemed to be a bit of hesitation on this run at launch. There seemed to be some wheelspin from the front at 25-30 mph. Tires were likely cold and so was the street.

I didn't have a chance to do many 0-60 runs but focused more on 50-90 and sub-intervals of that range than launches. I'll post more runs as I have time. Basically this run is about as good as well running Model Y Performance would be or a first gen Model 3 long range with acceleration boost if they were at full charge. All in all, I don't fee bad about the run given the low SoC and street conditions.

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[DayTripping]

Here is the next run in the series. I basically kept everything the same and ran it in Sport mode. And before anyone says something, I KNOW IT WILL BE QUICKER AT A HIGHER SoC. Most of my driving isn't going to be at a 90%+ SoC so I want to know what it runs 95% of the time I drive it. My Plaid is still stupid fast at 40% SoC.

As you can see, not much quicker in Sport than AP even though the temps have warmed up for the battery and motors a bit. I thought it might be a bit better than it was.

This run would be a MYP but not any version of Model 3 Performance. Even on a bad day, low SoC, they are going to pull you easily. Any 2021+ Model S long range will easily beat these numbers, even with a lower SoC. A Plaid could have 20% SoC and run away from these numbers. Still a fun truck.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Temps: 50F
Winds: <5 mph
Battery Temps: 67F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 90F/94F
DA: -426'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 62%
Mode: Sport
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Hard

 

[Donald Stanfield]

If you have the 21's that's where your slower times come from. Those tires aren't grippy enough.

 

[DayTripping]

If you have the 21's that's where your slower times come from. Those tires aren't grippy enough.

That is part of it, but I'm not getting massive wheel spin either. Might be more of a factor at higher SoC. I am basically baselining the truck right now. I know the temps and conditions aren't ideal, but I am not looking for ideal as 99% of the time, I won't be on the track and I want to know how it will perform in every day conditions. So far good, but not amazing. I am really trying to understand the impact of the different drive modes and how much the impact acceleration.

 

[Erik+]

Long press TC to turn it completely off. Your second effort did not specify TC.

 

[DayTripping]

I ran a bunch of runs back to back to back in Sport mode. SoC was falling as temps were coming up. I posted the specs for the fastest run. I had 4 almost identical runs in a row; 3.51, 3.51, 3.49 & 3.51. This truck is nothing if not consistent. I had one run that I think might have been a bit quicker, but for some reason, Dragy didn't capture it.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Temps: 46F
Winds: <5 mph
Battery Temps: 77F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 130F/144F
DA: -426'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 57-58%
Mode: Sport
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Hard
Traction control (High/Med/Off): Med

 

[DayTripping]

Here was my last 0-60 AP run that was valid. Things were warmed up. The time is identical to what it ran when it was totally cold. Winds picked up a tiny bit.

Overall, what has been impressive is how consistent it has been as the SoC has dropped. I just wish it was quicker while doing it. It is very solid for maintaining its quickness at least 0-60. I did one last Sport run but I accidentally cleared it while in the middle of the run. I was at a high 40's SoC. It had shown a 3.52 for that.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Temps: 48F
Winds: 4-7 mph
Battery Temps: 77F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 150F/165F
DA: -426'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 56%
Mode: AP
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Hard
Traction control (High/Med/Off): Med

 

[DayTripping]

I ran some 60-90 Runs. Actually I started at 50 but I am posting the 60-90. First will be AP mode and second will be Sport mode. Keep in mind the 0-60 runs weren't linear with the faster ones. They were intermixed so the battery levels may be high or lower depending on when they were run.

For reference the 50-90 mph times were identical for both at 4.82 seconds. I'll have to get the nod slight to the Sport mode as a tie breaker as the ground favored the AP mode a bit. It wasn't a huge difference and the Sport mode had the warmer battery and batteries but just a tiny little bit less charge.

Just a thing to note. My SoC was about 10% less than when I made runs yesterday. It has impacted the times for sure. My 50-70 times today were anywhere from .1 to .2 seconds slower. Yesterday AP was definitely faster 50-70, today at the lower SoC they were tied and the power gauge wouldn't go above about 7/8ths no matter which mode.

An interesting factoid of comparison, I looked up some of my runs for my 2022 Model S long range. typically ran 50-70 in 1.2 seconds and just over 107' to do it. My best R1T run so far was 1.8 seconds and 164'. My Model 3 LR with boost does typically in 1.75 & 155'. For both Teslas that was on a warmer day and with about 70% SoC. My Plaid runs are on another fun and I think the 50-70 runs were about .8 seconds.

So my lessons learned so far are don't run any Teslas that are a performance model as they will take you to Gapplebees. You likely will beat a MYP but you better be at a high SoC and don't run over 100 mph in Mexico. If you see an M3 LR, if they don't have boost, you'll be quicker (but not faster), if they have boost and anything over 50% SoC, they are taking you to Gapplebees as well.

My M3 LR w/boost is a great daily driver. It isn't insanely quick like the Plaid but does have a high fun to drive factor. The R1T mirrors it in a lot of ways considering it weighs about 60% more. Honestly, if the Gen 3 is only a little bit quicker than my Gen 1, it won't be worth upgrading unless they do some amazing stuff. I still wish it was a bit quicker from 50-80 as my initial perception that it lays down at about 50-60 were spot on. It pretty much mirrors my 1st Gen M3. My 2nd gen 3 performance will just run away and hide.

Still love my truck and will make some more runs at a higher SoC when I can more easily run the energy down. There is no way this truck is hitting anywhere near 3 seconds flat 0-60. It just isn't happening. I could put drag slicks on it, have the SoC at 99% with a warm pack and motors and it might run a 3.15-3.2. Which would be good but not what they claimed. Traction is a bit of an issue with my current runs but it isn't costing me a lot.

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Cargo/weight: About 450 pounds, including driver
SW: 2024.47.01
Temps: 48F
Winds: 4-7 mph
Battery Temps: 67F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 135F/158F
DA: -184'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 57%
Mode: AP
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Med
Traction control (High/Med/Off): Med

Vehicle: 2023 R1T QM large pack
Cargo/weight: About 450 pounds, including driver
SW: 2024.47.01
Temps: 48F
Winds: 4-7 mph
Battery Temps: 70F
Motor Temps (Front/Rear): 140F/163F
DA: -426'
Prepped surface: No
Wheels/tires: Factory 21" with factory Pirelli Scorpion AS @ 48 PSI
State of Charge (SoC): 56%
Mode: Sport
Suspension: Low
Firmness: Med
Traction control (High/Med/Off): Med

 

[RealBillNye]

Have you tried getting your battery temps up first? You can use the battery preconditioning via routing to a charger to get it toasty or just a deep charge the night prior.

 

[DayTripping]

Thanks. Yes, I did charge for several hours this morning before starting out on a 48 amp charger. It got them up from the 30's into the 60's.

I am not chasing Rivian Hall of Fame times here. I am just trying to quantify how fast it is, typically under the conditions I'll drive it. It is also to provide a reference for others and to see how what works for them as well. So all the suggestion are good, and incrementally can make a difference. My past experience has show with my Teslas that for the street, almost none of it makes enough of a difference to be worth the hassle. If Rivian does offer a launch mode, I'd definitely try it.

At the track, it might be depending on who I was running. I think I only had one race at the track with my Plaid, where the difference of going through the hassle of getting it into cheetah stance and having my SoC over 95% would have made the difference between winning and losing. It can run upper 9.3's low 9.4's all day long without a bunch of hassle. On the street, I am usually between 50-60% SoC. That is where I usually keep all my EVs.

I'll only charge higher just before I leave so that my average SoC is right in the sweet spot of 50-55% for non-LFP batteries like in my Plaid and Rivian. That has really minimized the degradation on my Teslas and it should on the Rivian as well. On the Plaid it is even more critical as the battery doesn't have a lot of surplus power to feed what the motors can pull. Once it starts to degrade it will slow and there is nothing you can do about it. My Plaid and M3 LR are coming up on 3 years old and both have about 2% degradation. Obviously something I am doing is working. It should work with the Rivian.

 

[MikeWilliams_R1T]

I always wondered if weight distribution could significantly affect the 0-60 runs. It’s already a 7200 lb truck… but would an extra 200lbs in the bed right over the axle improve traction a little? Or maybe in the Frunk instead?

 

[d15b7]

I had my ‘22 R1T on OEM 21s at Cecil County Dragway MD a couple months back. It’s a Quad motor with 34k miles on it and it was about 55 deg F outside and at around 100’ above sea level. The truck was at 74% SOC when I arrived at the track. The frunk and gear tunnel were full of IT computer gear (as they always are; it’s my work truck); I’d estimate about 350 ish lbs of gear plus I weigh 175 lbs. my truck is equipped with the full size spare option too. I was in Sport Mode and stability control off. No brake boosting - I floored it when the last yellow turned off and I jumped out of the hole with mild wheel spin then immediate hook up. Here’s my first pass (I’m car #312 on the left):

They do a ‘street night’ a few times a month for $25 race all you want. It was crowded and I only made two passes just to see what it would do. My second pass was nearly identical to the first (it was 0.01 sec slower). My guess is that I’d probably have gone two or so tenths faster if I’d have been at 100% SOC and had removed all my gear plus the spare tire. This is a fast machine.

 

[Electrified Outdoors]

Those are impressive times considering. SOC and the fact that he is running the 21s. 3.5 sec 0-60 is damn fast for that setup at that SOC.

even at 90% I’d want to see that battery toasty at like 85F to ensure max power is available but like OP said looking for real world numbers and the real world numbers are impressive if you ask me.

 

[R1Thor]

I always wondered if weight distribution could significantly affect the 0-60 runs. It’s already a 7200 lb truck… but would an extra 200lbs in the bed right over the axle improve traction a little? Or maybe in the Frunk instead?

My amateur experience launching my truck: I've never once gotten the 21 OEM to break loose and I've never once seen or felt traction limited by them during hard launches.

I'm 99% confident that Rivian has the truck 'tuned' for the wheels and tires they're configured with, and therefore probably have a safe limit set for maximum acceleration within that guideline.

In other words, I don't think you need to worry about balancing anything. Even if there was a scenario where you might have imparted something that improve traction, Rivian's already limited it, so unless you're hacking their software first to enable whatever overhead they have, it's moot--worst case, you'll make the truck slower by adding mass.

Notwithstanding, you cannot think of these as a 'typical' truck. The vast majority of vehicle weight (and subsequent center of gravity) is defined by the skateboard architecture. The bias is not even close to what it is with a typical ICE vehicle where most of the weight is due to the placement of the engine and transmission componentry. SO, I really wouldn't worry about trying to get more 'traction to the rear.' It's likely already maxed out (again, configuration dependent).

 

[DayTripping]

I had my ‘22 R1T on OEM 21s at Cecil County Dragway MD a couple months back. It’s a Quad motor with 34k miles on it and it was about 55 deg F outside and at around 100’ above sea level. The truck was at 74% SOC when I arrived at the track. The frunk and gear tunnel were full of IT computer gear (as they always are; it’s my work truck); I’d estimate about 350 ish lbs of gear plus I weigh 175 lbs. my truck is equipped with the full size spare option too. I was in Sport Mode and stability control off. No brake boosting - I floored it when the last yellow turned off and I jumped out of the hole with mild wheel spin then immediate hook up. Here’s my first pass (I’m car #312 on the left):

They do a ‘street night’ a few times a month for $25 race all you want. It was crowded and I only made two passes just to see what it would do. My second pass was nearly identical to the first (it was 0.01 sec slower). My guess is that I’d probably have gone two or so tenths faster if I’d have been at 100% SOC and had removed all my gear plus the spare tire. This is a fast machine.

I didn't get a chance to complete an 1/8th or 1/4 mile run but the one I did run in sport mode showed a 1.78 60' time and in AP it was a 1.84 60' time on the street. Just for reference my Model S long range was launching slower at about 1.89-1.91 on the street but by the 1/8 mile would easily be pulling a R1T QM based on your time. It would typically run about 7.1 seconds and 105 mph.

In general the lower SoC based on past EVs (and it appears this one) doesn't affect the 0-60 times that much, especially if you are traction limited. Where you really notice it typically above 50-60 and the faster you go. This seems true of the Rivian in my experience. This is a little disappointing since it has such a large pack relative to its HP.

Those are impressive times considering. SOC and the fact that he is running the 21s. 3.5 sec 0-60 is damn fast for that setup at that SOC.

even at 90% I’d want to see that battery toasty at like 85F to ensure max power is available but like OP said looking for real world numbers and the real world numbers are impressive if you ask me.

I hope we have enough data from others to quantify what it is "normal" for these trucks. It would be good to have a decent baseline to start with. I may try and warm up the battery today and do some pulls after it is warmed up and quantify what difference, if any, it makes. My past experience it doesn't make much 0-60. Typically that is the case if you are traction limited and can't get all the power to the ground. For a run what you brung scenario, the truck is pretty solid but not amazing. My reference may be a bit skewed by my other Teslas so factor that in.

So I hope more people will chime in with their numbers and how it was set up.

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